Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how people who never had to deal with Lorean are in this thread trying to use his work as some sort of measuring stick when in reality Lorean was terrible at actually seeing beyond the end of his own nose. The SAC was just one of many examples.

I have to strongly disagree with this. I re-read at least the first fifty pages of that thread recently, and Loraen was an absolute gentleman. There was no DSM-like arguing with everyone who disagreed with him.

To the contrary, several times throughout that thread he considers a poster's disagreement and updates the challenge to be better as a result. It's a perfect example of how consensus is possible, even in this forum.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to strongly disagree with this. I re-read at least the first fifty pages of that thread recently, and Loraen was an absolute gentleman. There was no DSM-like arguing with everyone who disagreed with him.

To the contrary, several times throughout that thread he considers a poster's disagreement and updates the challenge to be better as a result. It's a perfect example of how consensus is possible, even in this forum.

Why do you only ever blame me lol? There was no poor behavior by Samoht or Zuranthium or yourself in this thread?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to strongly disagree with this. I re-read at least the first fifty pages of that thread recently, and Loraen was an absolute gentleman. There was no DSM-like arguing with everyone who disagreed with him.

To the contrary, several times throughout that thread he considers a poster's disagreement and updates the challenge to be better as a result. It's a perfect example of how consensus is possible, even in this forum.

Go read the shit he posted about enchantering and such. He was so wrong about so many topics and all of the evidence he could provide was anecdotal at best. He'd test things for fewer than 10 iterations and declare them as fact.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go read the shit he posted about enchantering and such. He was so wrong about so many topics and all of the evidence he could provide was anecdotal at best. He'd test things for fewer than 10 iterations and declare them as fact.

Oh, he may well have been (I'm not going to go read the threads, and I don't play an Enchanter, but I have no reason to disbelieve you).

I'm just saying he knew how to throw out a cool idea, and then work with the community to build a better version of that idea through consensus. And the Solo Artist Challenge absolutely was a cool idea.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go read the shit he posted about enchantering and such. He was so wrong about so many topics and all of the evidence he could provide was anecdotal at best. He'd test things for fewer than 10 iterations and declare them as fact.

His enchanter guide is pretty fucking solid to this day, you'll have to point to specific cases and even then you'd probably be nitpicking. Honestly for a while I wanted to make a new one but I figured 80-90% of it would basically be loraen's.

His SAC is the yardstick because he made the first and only one so if we're to come up with a new one it should at least be better. Getting all those kills done is a lot of work.