Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious question: what are you hoping to achieve by engaging in this conversation with me?

I want you to do your job as a wiki admin, and act impartial while doing it. You failed on both counts.

OP was hurt by the trolling, to the point where he said he didn't want to post anymore. How does that help the community?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I want you to do your job as a wiki admin, and act impartial while doing it. You failed on both counts.

If you're right and I've failed at being a wiki admin ... that's already happened: this conversation can't change it.

If you're wrong and I've been a proper admin, more conversation certainly won't convince you of it.

So again I ask:

Originally Posted by Loramin

Serious question: what are you hoping to achieve by engaging in this conversation with me?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're right and I've failed at being a wiki admin ... that's already happened: this conversation can't change it.

If you're wrong and I've been a proper admin, more conversation certainly won't convince you of it.

So again I ask:

You need to revert the wiki back to its original state. No consensus was made, and the page without the ranking is broken.

[loramin]

So what part of my "encyclopedia part vs. personal part" of the wiki explanation didn't make sense to you?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what part of my "encyclopedia part vs. personal part" of the wiki explanation didn't make sense to you?

You honestly keep contradicting yourself. You say consensus can change the wiki page, but no consensus was made. The page was changed unliaterally to match your opinion. You accepted Zuranthium's changes, and deleted Sscalez changes.

[loramin]

But again, what are you trying to achieve?

The page currently, like every other un-credited page in the wiki, has only universally agreed upon information. Are you against that policy, of the wiki being like an encyclopedia?

The fact that Gruplinort is a "Disciple" level difficulty mob has not been contradicted by anyone. To the contrary, there's a long solo artist thread where everyone seems to agree it is that level. By my call, that's encylopedia-like information: do you disagree?

But, the fact that Loraen (many years ago, before Velious even existed) felt this way or that way about what counts as an "S+" is not: there is clear disagreement in the community as to what "S+" (or whatever rankings) should mean. Do you feel that personal view belongs on the community page?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But again, what are you trying to achieve?

The page currently, like every other un-credited page in the wiki, has only universally agreed upon information. Are you against that policy, of the wiki being like an encyclopedia?

The fact that Gruplinort is a "Disciple" level difficulty mob has not been contradicted by anyone. To the contrary, there's a long solo artist thread where everyone seems to agree it is that level. By my call, that's encylopedia-like information: do you disagree?

But, the fact that Loraen (many years ago, before Velious even existed) felt this way or that way about what counts as an "S+" is not: there is clear disagreement in the community as to what "S+" (or whatever rankings) should mean. Do you feel that personal view belongs on the community page?

I told you. Revert the wiki page until the the changes can be agreed upon. It's really that simple, and how other wikis operate. The admin does not revert troll changes by modifying the wiki to suit their own opinion.

[loramin]

And I told you, the wiki policy is not to have personal opinions on community pages. Do you object to that policy?

Reverting the page to the point you want would restore rankings, but as this thread has made painfully clear, rankings are not neutral content.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I told you, the wiki policy is not to have personal opinions on community pages. Do you object to that policy?

Reverting the page to the point you want would restore rankings, but as this thread has made painfully clear, rankings are not neutral content.

You do realize that your opinion on rankings is just that... an opinion. You put your own opinion onto the wiki by removing the rankings. The community did not agree to this.

[loramin]

Do you feel that the rankings are neutral, encyclopedia-like content, or do you feel that the wiki shouldn't be constrained to only have encyclopedia-like content?