Moss covered Twig

[everquest2025]

Does anyone know if the Moss covered twig holds agro better than wave crasher or frosty?

[zelld52]

No. It’s got 3 damage. The other two weapons have debuff procs.

[WarpathEQ]

Not even close

[everquest2025]

Thank you

[Andreaa23]

I was wondering about this too, luckily I found this article

[Goregasmic]

I'm not an expert so correct me if I'm wrong but:

If you do the (weapdmg x2 +db)/dly formula twig comes slightly ahead. So in the end it is down to how many procs you think you're going to get. Longer fights proc might win but on trash it isn't a given.

Hate is weapdmg + DB on every swing. And then procs.

9/19 on wavecrasher is terrible so unless you're getting it for the slow, for the same price you could get an exquisite velium 1hander that would rip a lot more in white damage at 12/20 and you'd most likely be ahead in hate generation AND damage.

And for 3k you could get a WESS that also has crap damage but is known to be up there for hate procs if hate is your main concern. That would leave 13k in your pockets.

Depending on your class there are some 2handers that also have solid aggro and good ratios.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not an expert so correct me if I'm wrong but:

If you do the (weapdmg x2 +db)/dly formula twig comes slightly ahead. So in the end it is down to how many procs you think you're going to get. Longer fights proc might win but on trash it isn't a given.

Hate is weapdmg + DB on every swing. And then procs.

9/19 on wavecrasher is terrible so unless you're getting it for the slow, for the same price you could get an exquisite velium 1hander that would rip a lot more in white damage at 12/20 and you'd most likely be ahead in hate generation AND damage.

And for 3k you could get a WESS that also has crap damage but is known to be up there for hate procs if hate is your main concern. That would leave 13k in your pockets.

Depending on your class there are some 2handers that also have solid aggro and good ratios.

At 100% haste Mosscovered twig will do 28 hate per second (11 Damage Bonus + 3 weapon Damage) with a swing every 0.5 seconds.

At 100% haste Wavecrasher will do like 21 hate per second (11 Damage Bonus + 9 Weapon Damage) with a swing every 0.95 seconds.

So you are looking at 1680 hate per minute (twig) vs. 1260 hate per minute (wavecrasher) when looking at swing hate.

If you have 255 DEX, you'll get an additional 840 hate per minute on average with Wavecrasher, assuming slow still gives 400 hate per proc from the slow component.

Wavecrasher will generally win out hate-wise at 255 DEX unless you get really unlucky on procs.

I do agree that Wavecrasher probably isn't worth the price, unless you have a lot of money to spare. Spend that money on Truncheon of Doom or Swarmcaller (depending on class) instead for a good slow proc.

Frostbringer generates a bit more hate than Wavecrasher, assuming it still generates 400 hate per proc from the ac reduction component. It generates 1255 hate per minute at 100% haste via swings plus 920 hate per minute at 255 DEX.

So you are correct that there isn't much purpose in spending 15k on wavecrasher when you can spend 1.5k on frostbringer.