New Druid Advice from the experts

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can frame it any way you like, but at the end of the day if you have 400 HP + 400 HP from items, you regenerate at the exact same rate as if you had +0 HP from items. That 400 HP of gear won't let you kill any faster, because all it adds is more maximum.

As I said before, if you aren't starting fights at maximum HP, and then fighting down to "almost dead, but you survive because of your +HP gear" ... your HP gear isn''t helping you. Except for ...

We were talking about Druids, and Druids really don't need Bind Wounds. But sure, if you're a soloing a Warrior or Monk or whatever, more max HP will help you start binding wounds sooner.

I have a 60 Torpor Shaman. I understand what you are trying to say about HP Regen.

But you don't seem to understand the basic concept that literally doubling your HP pool is more significant than getting +30 HP on a single item. I'd rather have my 2.6k hp on my level 60 Torpor Shaman instead of 1.3k lol. Same concept applies at level 30.

Remember that FoS also gives +400 HP. I hope you are not suggesting that Shamans are foolish for casting FoS on themselves and others. That it is simply a waste of mana.

Spending 1250pp on 5/55 rings, 35 HP earrings, and 15 hp bracelets for 200 HP is a good and cheap investment at low levels. Getting 10x HP at level 1 to 50% more HP at level 30 is significant for survival, especially while charming. You do indeed regenerate past your naked HP before starting a fight.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so your argument against the amazingness of the Goblin Ring is that there exists a more expensive ring, that low-level Druids can't farm themselves, which is not instant casting ... so everyone should use that instead?

You really sound like someone who hasn't seriously charmed before when you pretend two seconds doesn't matter (a lot) when finishing a charm fight.

I didn't say goblin ring was bad. Again you need to spend more time reading people's posts. I said the main benefit to Goblin Ring/Ring of Stealthy Travel is the mana saving and saving of a spell slot.

I've seen no evidence that shows instant casting specifically for invis is significant for charm breaks. I use the Goblin Ring for charming too. I know at least 2 seconds in advance when I need to break anyway. It's not difficult to predict. Ring of Stealthy travel is better because it's normal invis and self targeting, so it's more useful and you save time on target switching.

You are the one making the claim instant invis is significant for charm breaks. Yet you have no evidence to back it up. Baseless claims don't mean much. I've done plenty of charming and mob killing in general. You can predict 2 seconds ahead when a mob is almost dead.

[vales]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the main benefit to Goblin Ring/Ring of Stealthy Travel is the mana saving and saving of a spell slot.

I've seen no evidence that shows instant casting specifically for invis is significant for charm breaks. You can predict 2 seconds ahead when a mob is almost dead.

Invisibility vs animals is 30 mana (and 3 second cast time), you save way more than 30 mana by letting mobs get lower health with an instant cast invis. The spell slot/mana cost of invis is just a bonus, not the focus. You can't predict consistently enough to get the same efficiency as an instant cast, because there are combat rounds where mob hp doesn't move at all, and sometimes consecutive rounds where it spikes.

Originally Posted by Faywind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would not be keen on doing it naked since that piece is so expensive, I wouldn't have any leftover funds. Time to save up! Glad I don't have to save for jbooots or levi cloak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you definitely don't need it. You'll feel the difference before and after though when you do get it. I stopped to farm it at level 39 but it's way easier at 45 with elder spiritist's vambraces. I think the earliest you could farm the tunare root necklace is 29 but 34 or 39 is safer. The changes to equestrielle spawn frequency in lesser faydark make it extremely dangerous to farm, despite being near the mistmoore zoneline.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by vales [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The spell slot/mana cost of invis is just a bonus, not the focus. You can't predict consistently enough to get the same efficiency as an instant cast, because there are combat rounds where mob hp doesn't move at all, and sometimes consecutive rounds where it spikes.

Like the other posters, you have no evidence to suggest the 2 second difference in charm break is significant. If I can predict when to break charm 2 seconds early, you can too.

When multiple posters say the same thing, and none of them have evidence, it may just be a common misconception. Goblin Ring is clickable earlier than Ring of Stealthy Travel, and Goblin Ring was around on both servers a lot longer. Chardok 2.0 is one of the last patches. It's not uncommon for myths like this to form.