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Old 02-07-2025, 10:54 PM
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But then again, I did hear illegal border crossings are now down 90%
https://nypost.com/2025/02/06/us-new...border-patrol/
Illegal border crossings?

My brother in Christ, 99% of the immigration issue is lawful asylum claims.
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Old 02-07-2025, 11:08 PM
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Illegal border crossings?

My brother in Christ, 99% of the immigration issue is lawful asylum claims.
100% of border crossings are legal asylum at this point it's total bullshit.

That's the whole point of immigration reform, it's a total joke and asylum is being abused by anyone.

Right now you can literally seek asylum because you are afraid of racism online.
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Old 02-07-2025, 11:19 PM
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100% of border crossings are legal asylum at this point it's total bullshit.

That's the whole point of immigration reform, it's a total joke and asylum is being abused by anyone.

Right now you can literally seek asylum because you are afraid of racism online.
seeking asylum in the USA for anyone outside of mexico or canada has always been bullshit anyway

international agreements dictate that asylum seekers should apply for asylum in the first "safe" country that they come to. so anyone coming up from south america (including asians who fly into SA countries then travel north) should be stopping in a country like mexico and applying for asylum there.

Nobody except for the marxist globalists ever thought that everyone in the world should be entitled to asylum in the US or europe

Trump is only half right when he says, "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you and Im only standing in the way"

What is standing between marxist globalists and their twisted utopia is The United States and it's constitution

The sheer utter chaos of immigration is just another asymmetrical warfare tactic meant to clog the gears of government and destabilize the target nation, compassionate hyper-liberals are the avenue that makes this tactic possible.
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Old 02-07-2025, 11:21 PM
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seeking asylum in the USA for anyone outside of mexico or canada has always been bullshit anyway

international agreements dictate that asylum seekers should apply for asylum in the first "safe" country that they come to. so anyone coming up from south america (including asians who fly into SA countries then travel north) should be stopping in a country like mexico and applying for asylum there.

Nobody except for the marxist globalists ever thought that everyone in the world should be entitled to asylum in the US or europe

Trump is only half right when he says, "they're not coming after me, they're coming after you and Im only standing in the way"

What is standing between marxist globalists and their twisted utopia is The United States and it's constitution

The sheer utter chaos of immigration is just another asymmetrical warfare tactic meant to clog the gears of government and destabilize the target nation, compassionate hyper-liberals are the avenue that makes this tactic possible.
Palestinians, now those guys are seeking asylum.

Ukrainians.

Hell even russians!

I could argue that mexicans are, but only if we admit we should let trump drone strike cartel all day.
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Old 02-07-2025, 11:23 PM
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I’ll use my job as a microcosm for this issue:

So we bill the state for clinical hours. We can only bill for time we spend with clients, obviously we can’t bill the state for our time charting afterwards

There also isn’t nearby enough of us to handle the demand of a neverending slew of clients. So rushing through or not taking one’s time accomplishes nothing. We get no “productivity bonus” that other positions like outpatient counselors can get, no nothing

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So just about every “veteran” of the agency has learned to “time manage” and stretch as much as possible your time spent with clients. Not in the interest of billing for more money but to prevent from having seen 10 clients in a day and now having 10 charts to do, for which you are given no free time, and each can take up to an hour

Everyone who wants to Be All They Can Be, and be a hero who doesn’t somewhat stretch client time, burns out and quits. The system is simply not set up to support them

The idea of having the state micromanaging every minute of time spent with clients to force us into a burn out situation pisses me off. And I AM a hard worker with a good work ethic
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Old 02-07-2025, 11:35 PM
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I’ll use my job as a microcosm for this issue:

So we bill the state for clinical hours. We can only bill for time we spend with clients, obviously we can’t bill the state for our time charting afterwards

There also isn’t nearby enough of us to handle the demand of a neverending slew of clients. So rushing through or not taking one’s time accomplishes nothing. We get no “productivity bonus” that other positions like outpatient counselors can get, no nothing

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So just about every “veteran” of the agency has learned to “time manage” and stretch as much as possible your time spent with clients. Not in the interest of billing for more money but to prevent from having seen 10 clients in a day and now having 10 charts to do, for which you are given no free time, and each can take up to an hour

Everyone who wants to Be All They Can Be, and be a hero who doesn’t somewhat stretch client time, burns out and quits. The system is simply not set up to support them

The idea of having the state micromanaging every minute of time spent with clients to force us into a burn out situation pisses me off. And I AM a hard worker with a good work ethic
yeah even in private business this is how it works.

The difference is one guy is like, wait what the fuck I can have a yact if I fire half these people and we still do the same work? Ok they're fired.

Then next year they hire that many people because you have to be hiring to get all your taxes and company status etc. And the cycle continues, waste is cleaned, and the company value goes up.

Mass firings are like day to day in the real world, but not in the goverment for some reason.
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Old 02-07-2025, 11:49 PM
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yeah even in private business this is how it works.

The difference is one guy is like, wait what the fuck I can have a yact if I fire half these people and we still do the same work? Ok they're fired.

Then next year they hire that many people because you have to be hiring to get all your taxes and company status etc. And the cycle continues, waste is cleaned, and the company value goes up.

Mass firings are like day to day in the real world, but not in the goverment for some reason.
In an ideal situation, in the utopia scenario, we would be able to come to the state and say look we need like double the amount of counselors to handle the millions of people in our jurisdiction

And it would be nice to have hard work rewarded in some way, but that would also involve you paying us more

But here in the real world the state would be nah how about you just do it or get fired. And then my counter-argument would be yknow that constant turnover means less competent counselors and also possibly a money loss for you in terms of having to constant hire and train?

And the state would be like “/shrug, as long as it’s less than the cost of doubling your staff or paying you bonuses then it’s worth it”


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Old 02-07-2025, 11:57 PM
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In an ideal situation, in the utopia scenario, we would be able to come to the state and say look we need like double the amount of counselors to handle the millions of people in our jurisdiction
I feel like there needs to be some kind of a better outlet to tell voters from your position just how inefificent things are.

Like if voterse could see that, theyd vote for efficiency obviously. But it's so like, not in their pov.

Like take LA for example. If literally nothing is done about fire safety and prevention except saying "were upping our standards on fire and safety prevention, bringing more water to where it's needed and ensuring the city is ready for any future disaster" that's all they need to hear to elect the same damn people. And never once ask for an audit on that a year later, especially any audit with any consequences.

We need a better way for people to see, "he says they're doing all that, but clearly they re not and look how inefficient it is holy shit!"

Like, relying on politicians to "tell us what's going on" is just not working when we "all know they lie"

Perhaps with Ai we can have better stuff, but, whos to say that the Ai isn't funneling 3% of the money to Elon musk?

This is why we must live in pain and suffering, instead of well old efficiency. There's always someone to ask "yeah but what if.."

Maybe we need like IRS but just for the goverment, and it's got a division of journalists, that publish all the fucked up shit the IRS finds.
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Old 02-08-2025, 12:01 AM
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In an ideal situation, in the utopia scenario, we would be able to come to the state and say look we need like double the amount of counselors to handle the millions of people in our jurisdiction

And it would be nice to have hard work rewarded in some way, but that would also involve you paying us more

But here in the real world the state would be nah how about you just do it or get fired. And then my counter-argument would be yknow that constant turnover means less competent counselors and also possibly a money loss for you in terms of having to constant hire and train?

And the state would be like “/shrug, as long as it’s less than the cost of doubling your staff or paying you bonuses then it’s worth it”


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you're a public employee but you aren't spending tax dollars outright, you're billing for a service

im 99% sure you are safe from scrutiny unless you guys are holding counseling sessions in luxury hotels and then throwing cocaine and hooker parties on the taxpayer dime

mental health services are stretched so thin that anyone with half a brain is gonna be like, Yeah i'm not gonna screw with that, the entire field is like a single line of people holding back sheer hordes of utter insanity, we'll get into the need for the state mental hospitals another time

these government agencies under congress are just throwing american tax dollars willy nilly at any whim that tickles their fancy, that has to be addressed before the average tax rate is 30%

we have all thought about the trillions that the IRS collects each year and thought Holy hell where does all that money go? now we are seeing the tip of the corruption iceberg
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