Ranger ac parsing (I'm serious)

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally I'd love to see some data against higher level mobs.

Why? Lol.

Outside the curiosity for the sake of science, much of this thread is trying to pull a ski boat with a Honda Civic. It’s not what the thing was meant to do.

At least when it comes to DPS/Speed the Ranger/Civic has a shot when built properly.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Lol.

Outside the curiosity for the sake of science, much of this thread is trying to pull a ski boat with a Honda Civic. It’s not what the thing was meant to do.

At least when it comes to DPS/Speed the Ranger/Civic has a shot when built properly.

It's purely for the curiosity. Same reason I'm trying to do some better ZEM testing. Does it actually matter? Not a ton, but I get a lot of enjoyment out of the process.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outside the curiosity for the sake of science

Don't need more of a reason than this!

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why? Lol.

Outside the curiosity for the sake of science, much of this thread is trying to pull a ski boat with a Honda Civic. It’s not what the thing was meant to do.

At least when it comes to DPS/Speed the Ranger/Civic has a shot when built properly.

Well at first the cap was said to be ~100ac worn, which is demonstrably false.

Now we know it is at least 200. 100 worn AC was attained without trying. 200 is relatively easy for a non raider and going over it could be detrimental especially considering group setting.

If it ends up being 300, if you want to reach it, the average player will have to put more thought into it as a ranger. You can ignore it if you want but depending on your playstyle it can be far from inconsequential.

Same for knights/warriors. If the cap is, let's say, 250 worn AC for level 55 mobs and you decide you will only do group content, you can orient your gear choices toward that cap and allow more stats elsewhere after you've reached it.

I've VERY OFTEN read "AC is king" but from what we're seeing so far, gearing for AC may very well be a waste for a lot of players past certain points and I find it interesting to know where that point is. It's also funny that this was supposed to be parsed ad infinitum already and sogundordor found something no one seemed to have picked on.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've VERY OFTEN read "AC is king" but from what we're seeing so far, gearing for AC may very well be a waste for a lot of players past certain points and I find it interesting to know where that point is. It's also funny that this was supposed to be parsed ad infinitum already and sogundordor found something no one seemed to have picked on.

Context is important, I’ve never seen anyone say this about rangers.

It’s interesting but it won’t change how people gear or play the class. It won’t change how a raid operates and picks trash tanks. Concerning yourself with AC over other priorities as you put it: “depending on your playstyle it can be far from inconsequential.”

The only reason a ranger might favor one piece of armor over another with an AC benefit is if the item also had a ton of hps on it. No ranger is looting a Cloak of Thorns and think about tanking stuff like a boss. Except Salary Man with his collection of Druid shields.

It’s a time locked server. Accounts are free. The ranger is by far my favorite class here but if the job calls for a tank I’m the first one to swap. I’m not trying to hold back science, just offer a pragmatic voice.

My quote was in reference to AC making a bigger impact on high level stuff over low level stuff. It just pains me to think about spending hours CH chaining a ranger on gate guards outside Freeport.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My quote was in reference to AC making a bigger impact on high level stuff over low level stuff. It just pains me to think about spending hours CH chaining a ranger on gate guards outside Freeport.

Seems more enjoyable than spending hours CH chaining while your guild kills the same dragons for the thousandth time. At least you might learn something new (like apparently SKs and pallys might share a 200 ac softcap with rangers?).

My offer to heal anyone (on either blue or green) who wants to run ac/dps experiments remains open to anyone interested.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Context is important, I’ve never seen anyone say this about rangers.

It’s interesting but it won’t change how people gear or play the class. It won’t change how a raid operates and picks trash tanks. Concerning yourself with AC over other priorities as you put it: “depending on your playstyle it can be far from inconsequential.”

The only reason a ranger might favor one piece of armor over another with an AC benefit is if the item also had a ton of hps on it. No ranger is looting a Cloak of Thorns and think about tanking stuff like a boss. Except Salary Man with his collection of Druid shields.

It’s a time locked server. Accounts are free. The ranger is by far my favorite class here but if the job calls for a tank I’m the first one to swap. I’m not trying to hold back science, just offer a pragmatic voice.

My quote was in reference to AC making a bigger impact on high level stuff over low level stuff. It just pains me to think about spending hours CH chaining a ranger on gate guards outside Freeport.

If you're already raiding you probably maxed or will max all relevant stats with all the good buffs to lean on and a bunch of warriors on tap that are geared to the gills anyway. Good for you that must be nice (no sarcasm).

Your average EC gear ranger on a budget will be grouping in velks with 3 rogues, a mage and a druid. Might have to tank more often than he'd like to and he can't afford to max more than one thing really. If that ranger wants to be versatile, wether the cap is 100AC or 300AC will matter to him. Basically, if you have limited ressources you'll have choices to make and knowing those things helps being more effective.