Chira numbuh wan!

[shovelquest]

Trumps an idiot for doing tariffs against Canada.

HAHA Canada is BASED for tariffs against USA!

See, nothing trump does is wrong unless he does it.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys really fucked up my china thread, you know that?

China have small pecker and hive mind. Yes, they are good at stealing tech and spying like the Soviets, but like the Soviets, they will create a decaying society that will collapse under its own weight

I wouldn’t worry too much buddy. God loves America too much to let a nation founded by a person as ugly as Mao take us down

PS: tariffs on Canada? What are we wanting from them? Hockey players? Maple syrup? What could we possibly want or need from Canada?

It’s very weird to want both Keystone XL & tariffs on Canada. Trump and Biden might need Alzheimer’s meds and to play chess with one another at a park.

[Ekco]

'God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.'

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Deepseek thought for 39 seconds

Okay, so I came across this quote: "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America." I need to figure out what it means. Let me start by breaking it down.

First, the quote mentions three groups: fools, drunkards, and the USA. The phrase "special providence" is key here. I know that "providence" often refers to divine guidance or care, like God looking after things. So, the quote seems to suggest that God takes extra care of these three groups.

Why would fools and drunkards be grouped with the USA? Maybe it's a way of saying that despite making mistakes or bad decisions (like fools or drunkards might), the United States still manages to thrive or succeed, as if by divine intervention. It could be a commentary on how the US has survived challenges or crises despite flaws or reckless behavior.

I recall that this quote is often attributed to Otto von Bismarck, the German chancellor. He was around in the 19th century, so maybe he was observing the US's growth and resilience. The US had gone through things like the Civil War and was expanding rapidly. Bismarck might have been remarking on how the US seemed to overcome obstacles that would have crippled other nations, almost as if luck or divine favor was involved.

The phrase "special providence" might also be a play on the idea of "Manifest Destiny," the 19th-century belief that the US was destined to expand across the continent, which was often seen as divinely ordained. So combining that idea with the notion that even those who are foolish or impaired (fools and drunkards) receive God's care, the quote could be both a compliment and a backhanded one. It praises the US's resilience but maybe implies that its success isn't entirely due to wise policies or actions, but more to luck or divine help.

Another angle: in religious contexts, there's a concept that God looks out for the vulnerable or those who can't help themselves. Fools and drunkards might be seen as needing extra care. By putting the US in that category, it might be suggesting that the country, despite its power, still requires (or receives) divine protection, perhaps because of its recklessness or the challenges it faces.

But I need to be careful not to overinterpret. The quote is a wry observation, possibly with a mix of admiration and criticism. It's saying that even though the US (like fools and drunkards) might not always act wisely, it somehow manages to come out okay, implying that there's some higher power watching over it.

I should check if there are any historical contexts where Bismarck would have said this. Bismarck was known for his realpolitik and sharp commentary. If he did say this, it might have been during a time when the US was emerging as a significant but still young nation, facing internal conflicts but managing to survive and grow. So his statement could reflect a European perspective on American exceptionalism, with a bit of skepticism about how the US managed its affairs.

In summary, the quote suggests that the United States, despite its flaws or reckless behavior, is under divine protection, allowing it to succeed where others might fail. It's a mix of acknowledging the country's resilience while perhaps subtly critiquing its actions or policies as being foolish or irresponsible, yet still blessed with good fortune.

and the response

The quote, "God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America," often attributed to Otto von Bismarck, carries layered meaning through its juxtaposition of divine care with human folly. Here's a structured breakdown:

Divine Providence: The term "special providence" refers to the belief that God actively intervenes to guide or protect certain entities. By linking this concept to fools and drunkards—archetypes of poor judgment—the quote humorously suggests that even those who act recklessly receive divine oversight.

American Exceptionalism: Including the U.S. in this trio implies a wry observation of the nation’s historical resilience and success despite perceived missteps. The U.S., through crises like the Civil War or rapid expansion, seemed to thrive as if by a higher power’s favor, akin to the "Manifest Destiny" ideology that framed territorial expansion as divinely ordained.

Bismarck’s Perspective: As a European statesman, Bismarck might have viewed the young, turbulent U.S. with a mix of admiration and skepticism. The quote subtly critiques American policies as impulsive or naive, yet acknowledges the nation’s uncanny ability to overcome challenges, possibly through luck or providence rather than wisdom.

Dual Interpretation: The statement is both a compliment and a critique. It praises the U.S.’s enduring success but hints that this success isn’t solely due to shrewd governance—it may stem from an almost childlike reliance on fortune or divine grace, much like the undeserved protection granted to fools and drunkards.

In essence, the quote encapsulates a tension between admiration for American resilience and a cynical view of its decision-making, framed within the idea of supernatural favoritism.

didn't read any of it. gn.

[shovelquest]

Kstone XL means Canada pays USA to move oil through it. Tarrifs means Canada pays Usa to send goods into it.

So both just generate revenue for USA to do nothing.

We make money while we sleep.

[Lune]

I believe it's mostly natural resources, things like oil, uranium, lumber

It's a bonehead fucking move. Canada isn't exactly a place where enterprises go to undercut US goods and we're going to need the largest duty-free market we can get to put the pain on China, where it matters. Just dumb as all hell, though I expected as much.

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Kstone XL means Canada pays USA to move oil through it. Tarrifs means Canada pays Usa to send goods into it.

So both just generate revenue for USA to do nothing.

We make money while we sleep.

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[shovelquest]

The funny thing to me is will democrats get rid of the tarrifs when they get in office? or will by then will they be like, "well this does give us money for social programs"...

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

'God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.'

edit:
Deepseek thought for 39 seconds


and the response



didn't read any of it. gn.

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China just trolling us now

[shovelquest]

I still can't get over that if you ask a robot to turn down the volume during commercials it will say no.

[shovelquest]

Robots wont be like butlers or assistants, they will be like nanny's.

It's gonna be so fucked up.

[Duik]

God loves America too mu h to... blah blah blah.

Sorry moron, you lost the thinking man right there.