monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[Crede]

way too much discussion here. epic/sos & tstaff is fine until bo staff or better. it's comical how good tstaff is for a kc wep

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

way too much discussion here. epic/sos & tstaff is fine until bo staff or better. it's comical how good tstaff is for a kc wep

The issue is that the tstaff with the 2h changes while once was better than epic/SoS is now in a different solar system. If people have raid DW monk weapons that’s one thing but even a generic Peacebringer smashes all other DW EC combos by a mile.

The monk discussions are always amusing. There are a few weapons which clearly are the best but people try to “do their own build”. If you don’t have spells and have to rely on a superior combat table, and ignore stuff like ratios and math, you are going to do horrible dps. And if you are a low dps monk with some kind of angle on the game, God help you and anyone stuck in that awkward elevator ride who has to hear about it.

Or whatever, just do your own thing and get outparsed by rangers and knights. That won’t sting at all.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue is that the tstaff with the 2h changes while once was better than epic/SoS is now in a different solar system. If people have raid DW monk weapons that’s one thing but even a generic Peacebringer smashes all other DW EC combos by a mile.

The monk discussions are always amusing. There are a few weapons which clearly are the best but people try to “do their own build”. If you don’t have spells and have to rely on a superior combat table, and ignore stuff like ratios and math, you are going to do horrible dps. And if you are a low dps monk with some kind of angle on the game, God help you and anyone stuck in that awkward elevator ride who has to hear about it.

Or whatever, just do your own thing and get outparsed by rangers and knights. That won’t sting at all.

I do agree that many DW combos will get outclassed by 2h weapons post damage table change. Most 1h weapons aren't amazing, and monks specifically get some cheap, high ratio 2handers as well. The last round of discussions was talking about Fist of Nature specifically, which I think is the second best 1h ratio weapon in the game behind gharns (not including Knight 1h weapons of course).

Fist of Nature + Gharns can outperform a primal 2hb on paper at least, so there are indeed some DW combos that will outclass most 2h weapons. Obviously Abashi should still win out, as it is the highest ratio weapon in the game as far as I am aware.

As far as I know no ones really arguing using SoS + Epic Fist or Addy Club in most fights if you have a better option, as the ratios on those 1h weapons aren't in the same ballpark as Fist of Natue.

The consistency of DW 1h weapons do give you better odds of hitting their average damage compared to a 2h weapon in a single fight. You want to parse and/or math out the weapons you are comparing. If the DW 1h weapons average damage is close to the 2h weapon average damage, the DW 1h weapons will probably be the better choice for a single target high AC fight. Getting below average damage output for your 2h weapon on an important raid target isn't fun.