Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Marglar]

coin loot: yes, impact is minimal, nice bonus when you down someone.
item loot: no, takes too long to farm items, would not play here
exp loss: against it, corpse camping will result in a lot of exp loss, but it could prevent bind rushing
exp gain: against it, exploitable.

[Goraxx]

Coin loot: Yes
Item loot: No
Xp loss on PVP death: Yes.

[Nyrod]

coin loot - never seen it affect any servers player base/population
item loot - never seen it help any servers player base/population, rather the reverse
exp loss - never seen it on an emu server but exp loss is far worse than item loss on classic exp rates and see above for item loss (a very minimal loss? maybe but alot of things to consider such as exp gain for different lvls/classes/races etc)
exp gain - never seen it on an emu server but like everyone says its most likely too exploitable

we only need a p99 server where you can kill each other, that is reward/punishment enough, its not about anything else but being able to contest anything and everything from camps/raid mobs/exp spots etc

[wrxBRAH]

coin loot thats all.

[Tajin]

Im bias because i played and loved Rallos Zek, so i think yall should make it
Item / coin loot
4-8 level range
no XP loss on pvp death
full classic xp...!

[God-King Abacab]

Originally Posted by Tajin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im bias because i played and loved Rallos Zek, so i think yall should make it
Item / coin loot
4-8 level range
no XP loss on pvp death
full classic xp...!

Only one of those suggestions resembles Rallos Zek and that is item loot

[Zeebbo]

I'm not going to read all the pages here, but I'm sure I'm repeating a bunch of people's opinion...Xp loss on pvp death would suck because no matter the rule-set of the server, this community is full of people that won't pay attention to it.

My vote would be for coin loot only.

[Macken]

Coin loot and exp gain are nice.

I don't prefer item loot only because that is not how i learned. It was exciting on vztz and nerve wracking. I was learning while others already knew. I am not a prolific pvp looter most times and i always had a nagging feeling i let a manastone or diamond ring get away.

Exp loss would be a great tool to counter bind rushers. Most people seem to be oblivious to the number of actual effects any changes would have.

Fear of loss of exp encourages you to rustle you up a posse to retrieve your corpse. (which actually exerts upward pressure on population) When tired of looking for pvp, a lazy tactic would be to corpse camp someone so he brings the pvp to you. Can exp and pvp at same time.

Why does no one ever talk about the little-known side effects of SZ? Greens griefing reds etc..?

I know i'm not the only one who remembers the unique fun only found on SZ.

[Aprisle]

Should have been loot one item and coin, just like EverQuest in 1999 was. I don't understand why it wouldn't be that way.

You guys are trying to be so fancy, put xp loss in, remove loot one item. It's just a retarded server with a custom rule set.

I'd rather go PvP in Ultima Online

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Aprisle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should have been loot one item and coin, just like EverQuest in 1999 was. I don't understand why it wouldn't be that way.

You guys are trying to be so fancy, put xp loss in, remove loot one item. It's just a retarded server with a custom rule set.

I'd rather go PvP in Ultima Online

Im going out on a limb here, but im thinking maybe they thought people couldnt handle too much pvp so they put in a heavy penalty on engaging in it and serves only as an end game poopsocking dispute solver.

Its basically a blue server because of this, beside the big guilds slowly ganking the smaller crews out of the server one overwhelming gank at a time. As ive said again and again, without XP loss it wouldnt matter that much because you could go guerilla on those big crews. Going guerilla with a system like this means hours of extra grinding for half an hour of pvp deaths.