Is it better to use low level slows?

[Ruien]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Compared to shiftless, forlorn is +25mana for an extra 5% slow. The biggest question is do you want to spend 7kpp on that.

To answer OP; tepid deeps unless you're fighting nasty stuff, healer is struggling or your pet will not otherwise survive the fight. You'll get a feel for it.

That extra 5% slow represents an additional 16.7% increase in effectiveness, for 25 mana, so yes- between Shiftless and Forlorn, you use Forlorn. But I only use it on named mobs, on raids, or when pet health is too low. Most of the time I am using Tepid Deeds instead.

When leveling (solo), the answer is different still - you choose your slow based on the situation, estimating the right slow to use such that both pet and mob end up almost dead when the fight is over.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Ruien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That extra 5% slow represents an additional 16.7% increase in effectiveness, for 25 mana, so yes- between Shiftless and Forlorn, you use Forlorn. But I only use it on named mobs, on raids, or when pet health is too low. Most of the time I am using Tepid Deeds instead.

Forlorn is clearly better but when you still dont have bedlam/dictate/vog I feel like for forlorn can wait.

Originally Posted by Ruien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When leveling (solo), the answer is different still - you choose your slow based on the situation, estimating the right slow to use such that both pet and mob end up almost dead when the fight is over.

For double charm kills tepid usually does it. The trick is timing it right. It is by far my most used slow but i still bust out shiftless (no forlorn yet) often in more niche situations that either warrants/permits it.