Can we talk about the future of P99?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, there's no legal reason because Daybreak literally signed an agreement that allows new servers as long as they don't go past Velious.

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No need to repeat yourself, it doesn't say that on the wiki link about the agreement so I'm curious where you got that information.

You're right, no one really knows what's in the agreement ... but if you just think about the interests of the people involved, one would expect a clause like that to be in the agreement.

Why? First look at P99: they have been very clear, from day one, that they despise "cats on the moon". The P99 folks have zero interest whatsoever in taking P99 to Luclin (or beyond), except possibly in a very limited/custom capacity (eg. offering specific AAs as the result of a custom "epic quest").

Daybreak's interests are also clear: they want to make money off live EQ. But they've decided that P99 doesn't threaten that: it's so different from live that it's not a competitor (in fact, I think they recognize that it helps keep people's interest in the game alive, and actually drives more customers to play on their servers). So their only concern is that P99 could someday become such a competitor, if they impliment Luclin+ expansions.

Agreeing not to go past Velious is in everyone's interests: Daybreak gets a guarantee that P99 won't compete with them, and P99 gives up nothing (but gets the other benefits of the agreement, most importantly an assurance that Daybreak won't attack them with lawyers).

[WarpathEQ]

I think its perfect just the way it is, but it would be cool to get a fresh server since I came to P99 after green was already in Velious. Would be fun to just start EQ on day 1 with everyone else and progress to where green/blue are now.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think its perfect just the way it is, but it would be cool to get a fresh server since I came to P99 after green was already in Velious. Would be fun to just start EQ on day 1 with everyone else and progress to where green/blue are now.

you say this.. but each iteration of a new server gets sweatier and sweatier.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say this.. but each iteration of a new server gets sweatier and sweatier.

If you're not dead set on grabbing things like legacy items etc. then the sweatiness won't hit you as much.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, no one really knows what's in the agreement ... but if you just think about the interests of the people involved, one would expect a clause like that to be in the agreement.

Agreeing not to go past Velious is in everyone's interests: Daybreak gets a guarantee that P99 won't compete with them, and P99 gives up nothing (but gets the other benefits of the agreement, most importantly an assurance that Daybreak won't attack them with lawyers).

Yeah exactly, the clause is in there because Daybreak didn't want to look like assholes shutting down a small, beloved community run project. So they agree look you guys can run the server as classic through Velious. Anything else is gonna be a problem. And as you noted, it permits new servers because the agreement was signed 4 years before Green was launched (and the idea of Green was conceived of before the agreement was signed...it's always been the intent of P99 to launch new servers and merge the old ones).