Player Agreement: Rule Change at the DS Camp

[Ruien]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ruien, I appreciate your perspective, but there are a points and misconceptions to fix. The goal isn’t just to lower prices but to ensure fair access. Monopolization restricts access and creates unfair conditions where only those with excessive time can benefit. Fairness means everyone, regardless of their available time or money, has a chance.

An equity-based system like URN might break the monopoly, but it still doesn’t address the core issue of restricted access, or high prices (from what I understand). A roll or list system democratizes access, giving more players a fair shot without excluding anyone based on their time or wealth. Again, I'm not an expert on what you guys are advocating, but it appears to be met with mixed reviews. Even the poll image posted in a previous comment highlights that.

This isn’t about removing camping from the game. It’s about making the process healthier and more accessible. Fair systems enhance gameplay by allowing more players to participate meaningfully without promoting unhealthy behavior.

Lastly, random rolls aren’t foreign to EQ. They’ve been used successfully in other camps to ensure fairness and reduce toxic behavior. This discussion is about creating a fair and healthy environment, not just about item prices.

Hold on - I just don't get this point. What do you mean that URN doesn't address the core issue of restricted access?

I'm talking about URN network as literally free for anyone to join, who can log hours on their own schedule, and over a few months of camping with friends you will eventually be able to loot an Urn, and that urn can be either used or sold per your preference. How does that prevent participation?

[berbax]

Originally Posted by Ruien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hold on - I just don't get this point. What do you mean that URN doesn't address the core issue of restricted access?

I'm talking about URN network as literally free for anyone to join, who can log hours on their own schedule, and over a few months of camping with friends you will eventually be able to loot an Urn, and that urn can be either used or sold per your preference. How does that prevent participation?

You're right it might be a solution, and I think I've mentioned this before if we are getting support for an URN implementation, then I'm open to changing the player agreement. I don't fully understand (as I mentioned a few times now) the issues with the URN group, and only see the sort of mixed reviews of it.

[Ruien]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right it might be a solution, and I think I've mentioned this before if we are getting support for an URN implementation, then I'm open to changing the player agreement. I don't fully understand (as I mentioned a few times now) the issues with the URN group, and only see the sort of mixed reviews of it.

I honestly have not heard any well-reasoned criticism of the URN system. The only criticism I have heard comes from people who want an Urn without putting in time, money, and/or effort, and I don't think such arguments are valid or reasonable.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Ruien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly have not heard any well-reasoned criticism of the URN system. The only criticism I have heard comes from people who want an Urn without putting in time, money, and/or effort, and I don't think such arguments are valid or reasonable.

i have 4 pairs of cords and think urn is dumb. hope that helps.