Which is more boring? Mage vs. Wiz

[Selene]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure I understand the question...raiding is the end game.

And Wizards are damn good in the raid scene, but you need Porlos Fury and Epic for sure...among a few other clicks to do a proper job.

If you want a class to play outside of raids, make an enchanter. There is no situation where having an enchanter isn't optimal.

To answer your question: as a casual player, between mage and wiz, which class is more suitable in the end game? I used to raid a little bit on a casual guild with my druid (58) and pally (54) on green. My monk (52), mage (56), and wiz (now 34) on blue don't really raid much. My job often leaves me only 2-3 hours max of free time on weekdays so I may see myself as being, at best, a casual raider.

I just want to pick one toon amongst these that would allow me to enjoy the "end game," which I hope has more than just raiding. Because if it's raiding --- then I'll just invest in the wiz and play that class when time permits for raids. But if the end-game might also include things like duoing/trio-ing, or god-forbid grouping in a 6 man group, for adventures and certain interesting camps or quest kills, then maybe mage would be better?

What do you all spend time doing for the most part at the end game? Is it raiding or going on little adventures with a smaller group? Would any mage players care to comment --- is your 60 mage often welcomed for such grouping (and i mean not xp groups)? Thank you all and hope this makes sense...

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to pick one toon amongst these that would allow me to enjoy the "end game," which I hope has more than just raiding. Because if it's raiding --- then I'll just invest in the wiz and play that class when time permits for raids. But if the end-game might also include things like duoing/trio-ing, or god-forbid grouping in a 6 man group, for adventures and certain interesting camps or quest kills, then maybe mage would be better?

End game is basically raiding, farming high value targets (epics, plat camps, etc), and solo / duo artist stuff. I basically did all this to mega-twink my next alt...leveling was just more fun for me save for the first couple years of raiding when everything felt new / exciting.

Mage and Wiz are terrible outside of raiding, probably the two worst characters (ranger and druid honorable mentions). They just don't bring anything to small groups and they can't solo anything worthwhile.

If you're stuck with Mage and Wiz, I'd raid / gear the Wiz and just find chill spots to solo farm plat on the mage. The mage will be the char you would use in single group content with friends. Find an enc + cleric duo and beg them to take you along, thats your ideal trio.

Chip away at the Wiz epic...and Porlos Fury if your guild does ToV.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage and Wiz are terrible outside of raiding, probably the two worst characters (ranger and druid honorable mentions). They just don't bring anything to small groups and they can't solo anything worthwhile.

That's an inaccurate comparison: Mages are great group/sustained DPS (maybe not as great as a Rogue, but still very good). Wizards just aren't.

And while you're correct about soloing, there are things that can only be duo-ed or trio-ed with a Mage (eg. General in Overthere). Maybe not a lot, but I don't know of anything that requires a Wizard.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's an inaccurate comparison: Mages are great group/sustained DPS (maybe not as great as a Rogue, but still very good). Wizards just aren't.

And while you're correct about soloing, there are things that can only be duo-ed or trio-ed with a Mage (eg. General in Overthere). Maybe not a lot, but I don't know of anything that requires a Wizard.

wizards in 2024 have sustained dps with rend robe (54dps) and can provide cc. in some groups thats prob better.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wizards in 2024 have sustained dps with rend robe (54dps) and can provide cc. in some groups thats prob better.

Nobody cares about that. I've gotten stonewalled by groups of trash geared players with my 60 VP robed wiz, even after initially inviting me before realizing I was a wiz.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody cares about that. I've gotten stonewalled by groups of trash geared players with my 60 VP robed wiz, even after initially inviting me before realizing I was a wiz.

sorry you dont got group, consider getting friends

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody cares about that. I've gotten stonewalled by groups of trash geared players with my 60 VP robed wiz, even after initially inviting me before realizing I was a wiz.

Gotta gear to look like an enc. my fave trick is to have an enc boon me then approach a group lfg. Guaranteed invite. Just keep rooting and stunning they suspect nothing. Throw out the occasional flaming sword cos people think that is enc for some reason. Don’t forget to reclaim that energy tho!