Class that requires the least skill

[vageta31]

I seriously don't think some peeps on here have any idea what they're talking about with the clueless tactical comments.

Fear kiting is the absolute best way to kite.. far superior to a standard Druid kite who burns all his mana to kill 4 mobs then has to afk med and browse the boards. My iksar Necro can pretty much chain pull non stop in the OT without having to stop for a med break unless I get too many resists, and it only gets easier each level. Even then I never med to full, that's for sissies. In fact if I have at least 25% mana I will begin pulling and if the resists are low I will slowly gain mana throughout the fights.

Fear kiting is simple, it's learning the most efficient method with little down time that takes a bit of skill and tactics. Here is my fave method in OT.

1. Keep casting a pet until you get the max for your level. Do this around others in different level ranges so they can help identify it's level by cons.

2. Give the pet the lowest delay weaps you can manage, FS daggers are great. If you want to go all out then the whips and daggers from paw or nice.

3. Keep lich line up at all times and if your health gets too low then lifetap to heal.

4. Personally I like to pet pull and run back to the edge of the zone. Send in pet to get mobs attention while you head for your fear spot(you have to be close enough for pet to attack). I literally hit pet attack and head in the other direction and as soon as I see the mobs or pets health drop I instantly pet back off in which the mob comes after me. Soon as I hit my spot I sit and wait and hopefully get one tick of mana regen. When mob gets close enough in casting range I start my darkness cast and tell the pet to attack. Mob stops at pet and I get a free chance to land a darkness without getting hit. Throw on a fear and sit back down and med until fear wears off.

Trick is figuring out the most efficient way to kill the mob. Simply use darkness/fear and pet for damage? Or do you throw on a heat/boil blood as well so it dies faster but at a cost of more mana? I also keep engulfing darkness mem'd at all times incase the other wears off. Lets me slow it back down without burning all the mana for dooming. If I get an add I just snare/fear it while pet beats down the other one. I've easily handled 4 mobs at once though it does eat on the mana when it happens and I prefer not to have to do it.

Shamans also require a bit of knowledge to play well depending on play style. I'm all out battle shaman with my Ogre and continued that playstyle to 50 even tanking Specters and AoF when needbe. Haven't played him in awhile and I doubt I could do this efficiently in Kunark, but if I upgraded his gear it'd be an option. With canni dance, pet control and all the buffs you at least won't be bored with all the button pressing.

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by vageta31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously don't think some peeps on here have any idea what they're talking about with the clueless tactical comments.

Oh the irony.

Some of your "tactics" are spot on. But some of it is not true at all.

Mainly the weapon delay on pets. All 1h weapons are going to have the same delay for your pet.

[vageta31]

Originally Posted by Seaweedpimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh the irony.

Some of your "tactics" are spot on. But some of it is not true at all.

Mainly the weapon delay on pets. All 1h weapons are going to have the same delay for your pet.

Well to be honest I hadn't parsed the data, I was going on assumption due to my memory of how it used to be. If this is true then it's great news as I don't have to worry about what weapons I have laying around to give to my pet.

Is this working as intended or a bug? Maybe my memory is foggy but I was quite sure in classic that weapon delay mattered at some point.

If not my bad, scratch that part. Give your pet rusty war hammers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Convict]

Originally Posted by vageta31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well to be honest I hadn't parsed the data, I was going on assumption due to my memory of how it used to be. If this is true then it's great news as I don't have to save worry about what weapons I have laying around to give to my pet.

Is this working as intended or a bug? Maybe my memory is foggy but I was quite sure in classic that weapon delay mattered at some point.

If not my bad, scratch that part. Give your pet rusty war hammers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was that way on live but it was considered a bug and nerfed at some point. It was never implemented here.

I distinctly remember fs daggers turning pets beastmode back in the day.

[vageta31]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was that way on live but it was considered a bug and nerfed at some point. It was never implemented here.

I distinctly remember fs daggers turning pets beastmode back in the day.

And there's my problem.. I played EQ from late beta into late classic before Kunark. Of course I came back and left a few times in between, but my knowledge of classic has a lot of the "bugs" that got fixed later. We're talking the time when harmony was broken, snare lasted longer than ensnare(I used to quad kite with snare which was a bit of work), lifetap had no max level range for resists(quickly fixed after a bunch of low level necros were swarm killing sand giants haha), monks could wear rubicite, etc.. It's been a long while but I'm pretty sure Shamans were initially able to use charm but it was taken away. I distinctly remember that bastard Chief Goonda charming me on several occasions so maybe it was an npc only thing.

[Bubbles]

Wait, there's yet another thread with the level 30 necros in OT telling the level 60 ones how to play the class most effectively?

[vageta31]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, there's yet another thread with the level 30 necros in OT telling the level 60 ones how to play the class most effectively?

Hmm let's not forget that some of the level 30 necro's in OT were most likely level 60 necros in a past life and may have more experience that some of the level 60 necros on this server that haven't played one before. That goes for ANY class, and I know many people are playing classes they never did the first time around. How many people on this server are actually complete EQ newbies? It's like riding a bike, when you put 100's or 1000's of hours into a game, or specifically into a single class it's not like you have to relearn the entire game again so that experience is still there...

Also the subject was about what class takes the least skill.. I'm assuming that wasn't aimed directly at level 60 game play and was in general over the span of 1 to 60.

[Vladesch]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, there's yet another thread with the level 30 necros in OT telling the level 60 ones how to play the class most effectively?

Calling out deliberate misinformation.
Seriously, think about what is being said.

Are you a necro that agro kites and thinks it is more efficient?

[beentheredonethat]

Originally Posted by vageta31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously don't think some peeps on here have any idea what they're talking about with the clueless tactical comments.

Fear kiting is the absolute best way to kite.. far superior to a standard Druid kite who burns all his mana to kill 4 mobs then has to afk med and browse the boards. My iksar Necro can pretty much chain pull non stop in the OT without having to stop for a med break unless I get too many resists, and it only gets easier each level. Even then I never med to full, that's for sissies. In fact if I have at least 25% mana I will begin pulling and if the resists are low I will slowly gain mana throughout the fights.

Fear kiting is simple, it's learning the most efficient method with little down time that takes a bit of skill and tactics. Here is my fave method in OT.

1. Keep casting a pet until you get the max for your level. Do this around others in different level ranges so they can help identify it's level by cons.

2. Give the pet the lowest delay weaps you can manage, FS daggers are great. If you want to go all out then the whips and daggers from paw or nice.

3. Keep lich line up at all times and if your health gets too low then lifetap to heal.

4. Personally I like to pet pull and run back to the edge of the zone. Send in pet to get mobs attention while you head for your fear spot(you have to be close enough for pet to attack). I literally hit pet attack and head in the other direction and as soon as I see the mobs or pets health drop I instantly pet back off in which the mob comes after me. Soon as I hit my spot I sit and wait and hopefully get one tick of mana regen. When mob gets close enough in casting range I start my darkness cast and tell the pet to attack. Mob stops at pet and I get a free chance to land a darkness without getting hit. Throw on a fear and sit back down and med until fear wears off.

Trick is figuring out the most efficient way to kill the mob. Simply use darkness/fear and pet for damage? Or do you throw on a heat/boil blood as well so it dies faster but at a cost of more mana? I also keep engulfing darkness mem'd at all times incase the other wears off. Lets me slow it back down without burning all the mana for dooming. If I get an add I just snare/fear it while pet beats down the other one. I've easily handled 4 mobs at once though it does eat on the mana when it happens and I prefer not to have to do it.

Shamans also require a bit of knowledge to play well depending on play style. I'm all out battle shaman with my Ogre and continued that playstyle to 50 even tanking Specters and AoF when needbe. Haven't played him in awhile and I doubt I could do this efficiently in Kunark, but if I upgraded his gear it'd be an option. With canni dance, pet control and all the buffs you at least won't be bored with all the button pressing.

its different for an SK a bit. for me it involved a pull with dots, snare came in later (didnt want it wearing off too early), fear and pummel. I was decently geared at 52, but could solo yellow giants in velious fairly easily.

[stormlord]

Btw, i used to fear kite in the wastelands next to great divide with my ranger. I was in my 40's or early 50's I think. But I had a problem with getting adds and/or misjudging my fear timing. Other than that it was fairly effective. But I certainly wasn't soloing yellows. That was probably 2002.