Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People can check the post history to find out about cyxthryth, and decide how truthful he is about the post history.

He will continue to bloat the thread by reposting these things over and over, regardless of what the post history actually says.

430 out of 437 of his posts are in this thread alone.

Troxx continues to dodge the question about poclet characters.

I'm glad someone is doing a re-read & can point out exactly when you provide evidence of Shaman root-rotting and let us know precisely which page it's on. I'm sure that's something they'll be watching for! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The camps that "need" Shaman too!

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad someone is doing a re-read & can point out exactly when you provide evidence of Shaman root-rotting and let us know precisely which page it's on. I'm sure that's something they'll be watching for! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve read the whole thread I think twice - plus skip backs and smaller re-reads. He never provided anything other than napkin math and solo fights. He never, to my knowledge, ever demonstrated root rotting multiples adjacent to a fast moving group … even for a short period of time. For dozens of pages we encouraged him to go join a fast moving group and show what he could do - and did not. Only napkin math divorced from reality.

Of the videos he showcased, he shows himself almost letting his group wipe out with 2 enchanters in Howling stone in a breathtaking display of god-awful asshattery - i think it was even in the first 2-5 minutes of the video.

If you haven’t read this thread from the start, the first 50 pages are eye-opening. The other 460-480 pages are mostly recycled arguments from the community and an endless amount of dodging, making of demands, goal post movings etc

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve read the whole thread I think twice - plus skip backs and smaller re-reads. He never provided anything other than napkin math and solo fights. He never, to my knowledge, ever demonstrated root rotting multiples adjacent to a fast moving group … even for a short period of time. For dozens of pages we encouraged him to go join a fast moving group and show what he could do - and did not. Only napkin math divorced from reality.

Of the videos he showcased, he shows himself almost letting his group wipe out with 2 enchanters in Howling stone in a breathtaking display of god-awful asshattery - i think it was even in the first 2-5 minutes of the video.

If you haven’t read this thread from the start, the first 50 pages are eye-opening. The other 460-480 pages are mostly recycled arguments from the community and an endless amount of dodging, making of demands, goal post movings etc

See? He dodged again about pocket characters.

This goes back to Troxx's false claim that solo videos cannot be translated into group scenarios. This is part of his tactic to dismiss all evidence. This false claim is why he says I have no evidence for root rotting, which is untrue.

The howling stones video he keeps referencing actually disproves this claim, which was the actual point of the video. I showed I could sustain Direct Damage DPS across a two hour group session while doing other Shaman duties, in the same manner I showed Shaman Direct Damage DPS in a solo video.

Thank you for bringing that up, and showing you didn't read that part of the thread.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This goes back to Troxx's false claim that solo videos cannot be translated into group scenarios. This is part of his tactic to dismiss all evidence.

You already acknowledged these objective facts:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing

So I am not sure why you still seem to be trying to attempt to claim solo can be translated to group when clearly it cannot, because in a group setting there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data. Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for you already acknowledged these objective facts:

Neither of those quotes disprove what I have said, or the howling stones video showing solo videos can be used in group scenanrios. They support what I have said, so thank you.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Neither of those quotes disprove what I have said, or the howling stones video showing solo videos can be used in group scenanrios.

Solo play simply cannot be directly translated to group play because what the other players are doing have the ability affect what each other given player is able to do to include how much damage they are able to deal/how much DPS they are able to perform how much healing they are able to provide, etc. You know this to be true, per:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing

One particular thing which might be exactly the same solo vs in a group is something like root rotting multiple mobs parallel to a group, but unfortunately there's simply been no evidence provided to prove that Shamans do that, or would be able to improve their group's DPS by doing that (perhaps as much as or more than a non-Epic Mage).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Solo play simply cannot be directly translated to group play because what the other players are doing have the ability affect what each other given player is able to do to include how much damage they are able to deal/how much DPS they are able to perform how much healing they are able to provide, etc. You know this to be true, per:






One particular thing which might be exactly the same solo vs in a group is something like root rotting multiple mobs parallel to a group, but unfortunately there's simply been no evidence provided to prove that Shamans do that, or would be able to improve their group's DPS by doing that (perhaps as much or more than a non-Epic Mage).

The howling stones video shows you can translate solo dps into group dps. You have yet to provide counter evidence. As usual, you are hand waving away all evidence. Your claim about solo videos not translating to groups has been disproven so far.

It is also true that groups can skew your DPS data. A Shaman could do more damage than a Mage if the Mage Pet keeps dying due to another group member messing up, as a simple example. That doesn't mean the Mage DPS is actually that low if the group was playing properly. This is why logs or videos are better than parses, as they provide context.

This was all said before, and the post history shows it. You just keep spamming the thread.