Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are allowed to pocket whatever you want but don't have on the side what is the point of restricting this theoretical group to only 4 and only casters?

Look man, we get it. You want to be able to pocket a cleric because:

-Shamans can't complete heal
-Shamans can't buff the cleric/druid line of HP and don't have symbol
-Shamans can't stun charm breaks
-Shamans are not really effective blast healers

... and when shit hits the fan (and it will with nasty charm pets)

-Shaman's can't rez


You've just moved the goalposts again to make the entire scenario allow for your chosen class to fit into this class.

Quit being obtuse

Here is Troxx continuing to show he doesn't know what pocket characters are. It's quite sad really. I never said you could pocket any class. The simple fact that Troxx thinks you can pocket any class shows he doesn't understand pocket characters at all. It's strange, because this has been a common practice for many years now.

He doesn't understand how Shamans work, and can't even name one camp that needs a Cleric, while I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Please stop trolling, and learn the game.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He doesn't understand how Shamans work...

I've got a 60 shaman. That shaman hit 60 years ago. I've solo'd ever piece of garbage you have and have done so without anything you might call "raid gear". EQ isn't hard. You're not special because you've soloed WW dragons or done small man Fungi groups in king. Many of us have done that also.

... because EQ isn't actually hard.

Only classes I haven't leveled to 60 are rog/sk/ench/wiz.

I'm not sure which project I'll take up next.

You only argue for allowing pocket clerics because YOU KNOW that without that allowance there is no reason ... whatsoever ... to EVER consider replacing a cleric with a shaman (as the sole healer) for this group.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... and can't even name one camp that needs a Cleric, while I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Name one.

Actually ... name every single camp out there you can think of that needs a shaman where 2x enchanter + cleric + literally any other caster would not be sufficient.

I swear to god if you name WW dragons I'm gonna laugh in your face. A necro or mage summon pet can tank a slowed WW dragon far better than a shaman ever could - and enchanters can still handle their pets getting charm dispelled periodically. Funny thing then is that a long ass shaman solo fight suddenly becomes 90-99% shorter in duration.

Nothing in this game NEEDS most classes.

I'll be impressed if you can name one single encounter in this game that is possible WITH a shaman but is impossible WITHOUT a shaman that could be done by 4 caster classes otherwise.

You threw down the gauntlet.

Ball is in your court.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually ... name every single camp out there you can think of that needs a shaman where 2x enchanter + cleric + literally any other caster would not be sufficient.

Do it.

What named?

What camp?

You will not and can not because it does not exist.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do it.

What named?

What camp?

You will not and can not because it does not exist.

I already did multiple times. Shaman is better for Fungi King and West Waste Dragons compared to a Cleric. Those are two easy examples. You have yet to name a camp a Cleric is better at, or needed at. As usual, you never provide anything, and just keep asking for evidence after it's already provided.

Just look at the Mage DPS debate. You still haven't posted the logs, and I posted multiple videos with logs for my Shaman points.

You haven't explained what a pocket character is either. You clearly don't know what pocket characters are, since you keep insisting they can be any character for some strange reason.

The reality is you are afraid to be wrong, so you don't want to put any information out. It's sad. It's ok to admit you were wrong sometimes.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already did multiple times. Shaman is better for Fungi King and West Waste Dragons compared to a Cleric.

"Better" (subjective) is not the same as "needs a shaman". Congratulations. You have come up with 2 situations that are subjectively easier with a shaman. I could assert that either could actually be better with a CLERIC when you have 2x enchanters + another actually good caster class.

Fungi? Biggest issue there is actually the PULL. Cleric with DA to help a NECROMANCER split is actually a hell of a lot better than what a shaman could do.

Sorry you failed.

Thank you for conceding DSM....

God that's gotta hurt!

Thank you for conceding DSM!

DSM has conceded!!!

DSM HAS CONCEDED SO THREAD IS OVER!!!! REJOICE!!!

Thanks for conceding DSM! Thread is over?!



Thank you for conceding. You are the MTG of p99.

Tally ho ...

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Better" (subjective) is not the same as "needs a shaman". Congratulations. You have come up with 2 situations that are subjectively easier with a shaman. I could assert that either could actually be better with a CLERIC when you have 2x enchanters + another actually good caster class.

Fungi? Biggest issue there is actually the PULL. Cleric with DA to help a NECROMANCER split is actually a hell of a lot better than what a shaman could do.

Sorry you failed.

Thank you for conceding DSM....

God that's gotta hurt!

Thank you for conceding DSM!

DSM has conceded!!!

DSM HAS CONCEDED SO THREAD IS OVER!!!! REJOICE!!!

Thanks for conceding DSM! Thread is over?!



Thank you for conceding. You are the MTG of p99.

Tally ho ...

Thank you for melting down and conceding lol. People can see this post is deranged, like so many of your other posts.

You have yet to explain what pocket characters are. Currently you seem to think they are the same as main/alt characters.

You still can't name a camp a cleric is better or needed at. If you think "better" is subjective, you are silly lol. You can say a 95/100 score is better than a 90/100 score. This is objectively true while correctly using the word "better".

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already did multiple times. Shaman is better for Fungi King and West Waste Dragons compared to a Cleric.

Perhaps better, but not required, right?

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do it.

What named?

What camp?

You will not and can not because it does not exist.

C’mon buddy.

Name the mob or camp that NEEDS a shaman and can’t be done with a cleric.

Well?




Or….





Thank you DSM for conceding that you were wrong.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Like what?