Boxing

[Haynar]

Your argument is weak. Here are some alternate responses to what you said, to save anyone the trouble of responding.

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

-alts parked at rare named spawns

Guilds perma-camping rare named spawns, with a huge difference. They will not be selling the rare drops as often. Less rare items in game you or others may want, so less available to buy. Market controlled, so that all rares will have much higher prices. Not seeing your arguement, other than you want to be in group farming said items.

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

- every camp, camped. people now need a group for some spots. 80% more places open up to solo if you could box.

People need a group. You get a group or you don't get to play. Solo much lately? How's that working for you?

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

- ports, rezzes.... they lose a lot of their value. people make a druid. yes i say make, because they probably wont even play it. they just let it tag along until it can port.

Tried to get a port or a rez lately? Less boxers, means less total number of porters and rezzers. The server population does not support people spending full time porting or running zone to zone rezzing.

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

- you get stuff like.... oh i'll log on my llvl 50 to buff up our entire group and let it sit on the side for whenever things get a little rough

Done many CRs in a dungeon lately?

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

- every low level xp group with a high level boxed enchanter on the side handing out c2 to the casters... makes it unrealisticly easy.

So it is really not about boxers, it is about making the game as difficult as possible for everyone. Afterall if you have to go up hill to school in the snow, everyone should too, right?

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

- trading between your characters would be instantly back. might as well get the shared bank back too.

Not seeing your point here? Run out of things to rant about?

Originally Posted by Tanknstein [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- oh i'm killing level 35+ mobs here. lets have lvl 1 alts at the side for when a box of abu-kar drops. or any other lore item for that matter. first alt got the box? log it off... make a new alt. sit that one down next to me. get the picture?

And you don't have an alt logged off to loot a box for you, in case an extra one drops? I will try and remember to follow you around and loot the rots to sell. Not seeing your point here, other than you have plenty of plat, and don't need more.

Originally Posted by Tanknstein

Boxing needs to stay out

I have argued my side before. Your viewpoints are a bit skewed.

I am all for boxing. But I am content without it.

They need to agressively enforce the ban of violators who box.

If you are going to make a strong argument against boxing, get it right. No more weak sauce.

Here, I fixed your list:

-It is not fair, that one person can play 2 characters and camp something meant for two or more people. That takes away the adventure, the teamwork, the thrill of the hunt. The joy of the kill.
-Its not fair to gather a group of several people, fight for 2 hours to get to a camp deep in a zone, to find some ass (who did not answer camp checks) camping the same spawn he has been at for the last 4 days. Only to see he is the only one selling the loot from that camp at twice the price it used to go for.
-It sucks to not be able to find a port or a rez when you needed, because the only porters or rezzers are boxers and they are asses. Sucks having people on the server who do not help others.
-Its sucks being the rejected "shaman, druid, chanter" from the group because they are not needed, because someones high level alt is constantly buffing so group invite requests are ignored. Why invite someone who provides no value added?
-If everyone can have a chanter alt to buff the group, we might as well just give out FT20 gear to everyone. Once again, who needs the chanter LFG, if they provide no benefit. If you want that, there is the EZ server a few slots up in the server selection list.
-The challenge of dropping that item on the ground, hoping you don't go LD, when there is noone to trade with, and get back in before it poofs would be gone. There would be no reason to have friends, guildies, or to try and trust a noob to hold an item and earn a few plat. Where is the fun in taking away helping others in needs?
-Getting an extra abu-kar drop is so nice, when you can make someones day and allow them to loot one. It is nice to help others. How many alts do you need with boxes anyways?

There are some good valid arguments for being against boxing. I can argue it either way, but I can make a much stronger argument against. Even though I would rather be able to box myself.

Haynar