I think the time has come for Shadows of Lucin

[Fumoo112]

Well its been 10 years of velious, if you do not adapt and change with the times, the times pass you by. Yes, p99 gets about 1k players on avg between the two servers. But the new people coming in, which isnt many trying to level is near impossible unless you make a solo class. Healers and CC are non exsistant at lower levels which makes content hard. Just because you guys are 60 with all your raiding gear does not make you right. Its not just about you , i look at it as a new player. Even in a Live eq with the TLPs, it gets stale. So much good content not experinced by the good people of Norrath. Bazaar is trash. I agree, hate it, it ruined the market but there are so many good zones and much more content that is good inside Luclin and PoP.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Fumoo112 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well its been 10 years of velious, if you do not adapt and change with the times, the times pass you by. Yes, p99 gets about 1k players on avg between the two servers. But the new people coming in, which isnt many trying to level is near impossible unless you make a solo class. Healers and CC are non exsistant at lower levels which makes content hard. Just because you guys are 60 with all your raiding gear does not make you right. Its not just about you , i look at it as a new player. Even in a Live eq with the TLPs, it gets stale. So much good content not experinced by the good people of Norrath. Bazaar is trash. I agree, hate it, it ruined the market but there are so many good zones and much more content that is good inside Luclin and PoP.

Your mistake is assuming that the intent of the server is to "survive" or "adapt and change with the times". That's not the intent of this server at all. The intent is quite literally to just portray the classic era through Velious. For instance, Nilbog has never cared if 10 player play P99 or 1,000...he cares about making a museum as close to classic as he can.

Also, the issue with population currently isn't because more expansions are needed. The issue is that we have two top heavy servers at the end of the classic era timeline and they haven't been merged. Merge them and the issues you're talking about are drastically reduced.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your mistake is assuming that the intent of the server is to "survive" or "adapt and change with the times". That's not the intent of this server at all. The intent is quite literally to just portray the classic era through Velious. For instance, Nilbog has never cared if 10 player play P99 or 1,000...he cares about making a museum as close to classic as he can.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's the intent of the server then it has failed. Horribly. P99 is nothing more than another custom server existing in a sea of other custom servers.

Yet here you are. Placing suggestion boxes in a place nobody asked for one.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's the intent of the server then it has failed. Horribly. P99 is nothing more than another custom server existing in a sea of other custom servers.

I don't really think so. There's definitely some non-classic stuff on here but I think the vast majority of it is do to players using it as exploits or ways to cheese through raiding encounters etc. so it had to be changed (which, funnily enough, is an approach devs took in classic as well - so technically it's keeping in the spirit of old school EQ).

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to Everquest. Players cheesing their way through content is classic as fuck. Trying to play whack a mole with all the different ways players come up with to play the game is a recipe for failure as we've already clearly seen.

The server would be a much better place if Nilbog would focus on making an accurate sandbox and let the players play the game.

There wouldn't be a server if P99 was a copy/paste of the day the last velious patch hit.

it would be like ~30 sweaty neckbeards exploiting the fuck out of everything for 16 hours a day.

that's it. it's just the status quo of P99 you know of, x100

these people would create a prohibitive experience to anyone less than a hardcore gamer.

live never had to deal with half of these problems that P99 does, more often than not new content was around the corner and players were off on the new thing. Yeah there were problems, and live had a paid staff who would deal with it.

the reason we can't click midnight mallets or quad-nuke rods anymore isn't that Nilbog makes aribtrary changes.

It's you. You're the reason.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL, some, LOLOLOLOL.



Welcome to Everquest. Players cheesing their way through content is classic as fuck. Trying to play whack a mole with all the different ways players come up with to play the game is a recipe for failure as we've already clearly seen.

The server would be a much better place if Nilbog would focus on making an accurate sandbox and let the players play the game.

Sounds like someone just likes EZ mode EQ and doesn't like things that make the game harder for them. Guess we should call the waaambulance

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait I thought we were supposed to want one to one classic. Isn't that what the server was founded on? Exact classic? So you don't want to play the game as it was exactly in the classic era? You do realize things get easier as you play them more and spend more time understanding the game. We've experienced 25 years of this game and the knowledge to go with it. As much as all the devs and classic apologists would like you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. It's impossible to give people a "classic experience" after 25 years.

Yet you call the server "another custom server in a sea of custom servers", as if you don't understand they're clearly trying to make it as classic as they can. It's not like it's some kinda spawn your own gear and go jerk off with a party of mercs in ldon zones type server or something. It's pretty damn close to what most people remember, roughly, from that period in the game's history. Not to mention there are genuine new players who find the server sometimes and probably wouldn't wanna play if the pop was only the size of one guild, which is what would happen without any dev intervention ever. I think they struck about the best balance you can.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

1. You are wayyyy to upset about not being able to cheese your way through things on an emulated server for a 25 year old MMO.

2. No one is "required" to have the experience that you have here. This isn't the only EQ emulator out there. There are plenty of others. Nor do you have to pay money to play this one or any of the others. If you don't like someone's "vision" who runs a specific server, then don't play on that server. You can go play on another one where you won't be getting your panties in a twist so much! Good news!

[Duik]

Originally Posted by cotterpin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. It's an attempt to force one dev's "vision" and if they don't like a thing, regardless if people were doing that thing in era or not, fuck off, kick rocks, out it goes. People had wildly unique experiences across different servers in classic. Just start a conversation in any of the guild discords about peoples experience in classic and it's easy to see. Trying to force one person's "vision" of classic as the experience that everyone is required to have is beyond stupid.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Non-Classic_Compendium

They made me do it.
They make me play. I
t's like a conspiracy.
Like I mean some dude makes a sandbox, invites anyone to play in it with him and (all I have to do is) play nice, accept some arbitrary decisions based on the devs abilities (that he donates), technical limitations, legal limitations and the fact it is not a time machine and a big part of the game is never coming back. Wonder. Discovery.

Whiney poopsocking cheaty crybabies are gonna (knowingly or unknowingly) push the boundries with known and newly discovered exploits.

A cat shits in your kids fancy clamshell sandpit you clean that up right? Maybe put a cover on it? Now it doesnt look like a clamshell any longer and the 3yr old complains. Daddy comes out, pulls that plywood cover off and the smiles return.

In this scenario, you could be the 3yr old or continue to be the whiney crybaby. Or drop a cat shit in that pit and get a (non standard) lid put on it.