SK Race Choice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A turnkey Inny’s Curse is like 100k+. A Lord of Pain’s Khukri is like 15k?

By far the worse thing about iksars is the 2h swing animation. Shroud of Undeath or a Soul Defiler will fix that though.

I agree that if you plan on never raiding with your SK or getting Epic, then Greenmist can be a good stopping point for very casual players. But then the 25 MR argument for raiding is off the table, for example.

I generally caution against people assuming their characters will never reach level 60, unless they are very sure of themselves. P99 is a game many people play for years. You can change your mind in a couple of years in terms of what you want your character to do. I never thought I would raid when I started playing, but that changed over time.

Greenmist isn't good enough to be something you would choose your race over. Blood Ember will also help you while leveling, so it isn't like you are losing a leveling tool by not picking Iksar. Blood Ember saves you a lot of mana, which is an SK's main bottleneck. This is especially true if you are a Troll/Iksar with Fungi Tunic. You are already going to be regenerating more HP than mana while sitting.

[Snaggles]

I don’t think any knight race is limiting for what you can or can’t do if the rest of your gear/skill is sufficient. Plenty of humans, dark elves, and erudites tank stuff just fine.

If someone likes a lizard, ogre, or troll more power to them.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t think any knight race is limiting for what you can or can’t do if the rest of your gear/skill is sufficient. Plenty of humans, dark elves, and erudites tank stuff just fine.

If someone likes a lizard, ogre, or troll more power to them.

Indeed. I don't believe anybody is saying that Iksars are so bad that they are unplayable. I don't believe anybody is saying you shouldn't pick whichever race you prefer.

This is OP's question:

Originally Posted by trees [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looking for some input

Is Iksar SK worse for end-game solo crawling than other races?
Do the armor clickies account for serious mana saving etc?

They want to know the pros and cons of Greenmist vs. Blood Ember. That is why they are asking about "armor clickies".

There is no problem with answering this question.

Blood Ember is generally better than Greenmist for solo end-game dungeon crawling.

[real_sauga_yoot]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blood Ember is generally better than Greenmist for solo end-game dungeon crawling.

Saying this as a matter of fact is totally wrong. Blood Ember is not generally better than Greenmist nor is Greenmist generally better than Blood Ember for solo end-game dungeon crawling. Both are completely inconsequential in reality.

I've had a 60 SK before and i can tell you that i most often used Cascading Darkness for soloing. Engulfing Darkness is not what you want to be using for solo kills and long fights, free or not. You're using BE gauntlets more for fast paced groups where mana is an issue over time or you're trying to be efficient.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by real_sauga_yoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying this as a matter of fact is totally wrong. Blood Ember is not generally better than Greenmist nor is Greenmist generally better than Blood Ember for solo end-game dungeon crawling. Both are completely inconsequential in reality.

I've had a 60 SK before and i can tell you that i most often used Cascading Darkness for soloing. Engulfing Darkness is not what you want to be using for solo kills and long fights, free or not. You're using BE gauntlets more for fast paced groups where mana is an issue over time or you're trying to be efficient.

welp, c u boys in 20 pages

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by real_sauga_yoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying this as a matter of fact is totally wrong. Blood Ember is not generally better than Greenmist nor is Greenmist generally better than Blood Ember for solo end-game dungeon crawling. Both are completely inconsequential in reality.

I've had a 60 SK before and i can tell you that i most often used Cascading Darkness for soloing. Engulfing Darkness is not what you want to be using for solo kills and long fights, free or not. You're using BE gauntlets more for fast paced groups where mana is an issue over time or you're trying to be efficient.

Blood Ember is indeed better than Greenmist due to the mana savings while solo dungeon crawling. I use Blood Ember Gloves while solo dungeon crawling whenever the area allows it. You also have Blood Ember Greaves and Boots for further mana saving.

Greenmist is going to be replaced by better weapons eventually, so I agree with you there.