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Old 02-17-2024, 11:14 AM
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Except for math apparently.
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Hats off the bcbrown for trying. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone be so patient. His conduct was that of a gentleman and a scholar.
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Old 02-17-2024, 11:17 AM
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Sick burn.

Hats off the bcbrown for trying. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone be so patient. His conduct was that of a gentleman and a scholar.
He still hasn't admitted his Scourge DoT DPS calculations were wrong, even after I showed him in game evidence of Blight Hammer doing 3.23 DoT DPS on average, and 6.13 DPS total including white damage.

He is unable to admit when he is wrong, just like yourself. I have admitted when I've made a mistake multiple times by contrast.

A scholar and a gentleman does not troll other posters and refuse to admit when they are wrong. I hope Bcbrown can learn from his mistakes and become better from this. I hope the same for you too, but it has yet to happen.
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Old 02-18-2024, 11:38 PM
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He still hasn't admitted his Scourge DoT DPS calculations were wrong, even after I showed him in game evidence of Blight Hammer doing 3.23 DoT DPS on average, and 6.13 DPS total including white damage.

He is unable to admit when he is wrong, just like yourself. I have admitted when I've made a mistake multiple times by contrast.
Can you admit that when you calculated DPS from the mountain giants:
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Total DPS done to the Shaman: 11.54 DPS on average from a level 50 mob slowed by 70% via Togor's Insects.
15508 over 22 Min 24 Sec = 15508 / 1344 seconds = 11.54 DPS
that you made a miscalculation? That the 22:24 time elapsed you used included about 4-5 minutes of canni/torpor, and that the true DPS value shown in the log and video is about 14, not 11 DPS?

 
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Old 02-18-2024, 11:59 PM
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Can you admit that when you calculated DPS from the mountain giants:


that you made a miscalculation? That the 22:24 time elapsed you used included about 4-5 minutes of canni/torpor, and that the true DPS value shown in the log and video is about 14, not 11 DPS?

 
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You need to go back and read my previous posts instead of asking the same question over and over again. It is a strange habit of yours. I've already addressed this. Perhaps read more carefully next time?

Now, how about that Scourge DoT DPS calculation you keep forgetting to admit you were wrong about?
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Old 02-19-2024, 03:44 AM
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The only reason I came back to this thread was because I realized I made a miscalculation.

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% echo if you can admit that you miscalculated mountain giant dps, i can admit I made a mistake when calculating dps for the 132 second scourge proc | md5
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My python code for calculating proc dps was erroneous. I spent some time this afternoon fiddling with it, but was unable to come up with a solution I was confident in. I retract my 0.75 DPS figure for a 132 second fight.

I do not retract my calculation for an 18 second fight, and I do not accept your calculations as correct.
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Old 02-19-2024, 11:37 AM
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The only reason I came back to this thread was because I realized I made a miscalculation.





My python code for calculating proc dps was erroneous. I spent some time this afternoon fiddling with it, but was unable to come up with a solution I was confident in. I retract my 0.75 DPS figure for a 132 second fight.

I do not retract my calculation for an 18 second fight, and I do not accept your calculations as correct.
Thank you for admitting you made a mistake in your calculations.

You can not accept it all you want, but the data supports my math thus far, and you don't have an alternative you are willing to provide.
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Old 02-19-2024, 01:00 PM
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I do not retract my calculation for an 18 second fight
I am going to hold you to this then.

Your 18 second fight calculation is here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=659

The expected DPS was 26.29 damage / 18 seconds = 1.46 DPS, and the calculations look correct when taking into account the minor rounding you were doing.

When looking at the same problem using a Normal Distribution:

At 1 PPM you have: 1 PPM x (60 seconds / 18 seconds) = 0.333 PPM when taking into account the fight does not last a full minute.

Scourge DoT Damage table over 18 seconds: [40, 64, 88, 112] = 304 damage / 4 damage numbers = 76 average damage x 0.333 PPM = 25.308 adjusted average damage / 18 seconds = 1.406 DPS

If we use your percent chances to proc the weapon a second time [0.097, 0.097, 0.097, 0.011] = 0.302 / 4 = 0.0755 x 40 DD Damage = 3 damage. If we add the 3 damage to the 76 damage we got above, we now get:

79 average damage x 0.333 PPM = 26.31 damage / 18 seconds = 1.46 DPS

Thank you for agreeing with me that the Normal Distribution method is good enough to approximate average DPS. My guess is you realized this too, which is why you refuse to post your math.
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