Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not convinced our over-simplified napkin math is correct to begin with. Bcbrown being right and you being wrong about the stupid value of a *who gives a shit* quality proc having 2dps or 0.75dps notwithstanding ...

You have yet to prove my math wrong. Simply claiming it is wrong isn't an argument.

I also proved Bcbrown wrong:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=650
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=660

Continuing to act like this isn't helping your argument.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have played the JBB game.
I noticed it was simply worse.
It is THE REASON I sold it.

You could have been wrong in your assessment at the time too! This is just an opinion right now.

Since you are including personal experience into your argument, I did actually solo PoM Rat Maze from 58-60 on my Shaman using JBB. The Rats really didn't do much damage from what I remember. I chewed through them. It was great XP too. Best I could find at the time. Better than Neriak Arena since I didn't have Epic.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I seriously am questioning whether we are assuming a priest class without many defensive lines and skill caps will be actually taking 10dps on a 70% slowed 7khp velious mob. Beyond that, I question whether said shaman would actually be taking comparable damage to a warrior class pet with these skills (where the shaman has none).

My Shaman takes 18.5 DPS from Ionat after he is slowed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPxeOVuX0G8 It's really not that surprising. Ionat hits 2x as hard as Ratfinks, is higher level, and designed for a group of players. It would honestly be more surprising if a random level 48 trash mob did even 60% of Ionat's damage after being slowed.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My Shaman takes 18.5 DPS from Ionat after he is slowed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPxeOVuX0G8 It's really not that surprising. Ionat hits 2x as hard as Ratfinks, is higher level, and designed for a group of players. It would honestly be more surprising if a random level 48 trash mob did even 60% of Ionat's damage after being slowed.

Your shaman:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Shamwowi

My shaman:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Jolav


Mine is more typical of a group geared 58 shaman for the type of scenario we are discussing (58 shaman farming xp). I have not specifically counted counted up your gear pieces but it would seem that more than half your gear is TOV raid target or above.

Do you suspect this is typical for a leveling shaman in their 50s? Would Ionate do 18dps to my shaman (for fucks sake I would hope not)

If a 7k hp velious mob does 10dps on average to you at 60 with that gear - one could reasonably deduce it would do a lot more damage to a lesser geared shaman at 60 and even more to the same level of gear on a 56 or 58 shaman.

More variables not accounted for.

You are not at all geared like a typical shaman in their 50s grinding xp.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are not at all geared like a typical shaman in their 50s grinding xp.

Remember that you are the one who added a Fungi Tunic to their "napkin math". My examples did not initially include it. But now you are worried about gear all of a sudden.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a 7k hp velious mob does 10dps on average to you at 60 with that gear - one could reasonably deduce it would do a lot more damage to a lesser geared shaman at 60 and even more to the same level of gear on a 56 or 58 shaman.

I didn't say a trash mob does 10 DPS on average to my Shaman. I am not sure where you read that. I didn't use my Shaman at all for the 10 DPS average number I used initially.

I didn't say my gear isn't affecting the DPS of Ionat. But it is up to you to determine how much of a factor it is if you are trying to claim the DPS will be much higher. Right now this is just your opinion that it is such a big difference.