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Originally Posted by 7thGate
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Its hard to tell because the impact of +ATK is hard to parse out and it probably varies a lot by mob AC. My very rough approximation from experience is that Avatar is approximately +10% damage. Epic Bard is about half an Avatar, so guesstimating +25% of a Rogue from boosting a group, then they bring their own melee which is probably like 1/3 of a Rogue. Might be a bit better than that or a bit worse, but likely below a Rogue in total damage added.
Its obviously better to be pumping Rogue DPS vs. cleric mana on a fight like Trak or anything in VP where there's a lot of burst need and the fight is going to be done in 20 seconds. For something like AOW, if you have a 7 minute AOW, your math would indicate 20 CHs, which would be like 15-20 seconds of additional cleric mana for the raid to DPS. Raid is DPSing at 2380 for that time, so you basically do about 35-50k damage from extending the raid's DPS lifetime.
I'm almost positive you don't do 83 dps from boosting the DPS group, that's probably close to top tier rogue performance and I've never seen a non-pet break that level on Avatar (I also don't generally group with rogues running BIS though, I wouldn't be surprised if a BIS rogue could hit that sometimes).
Overall, its probably a shift where on some targets its better, some its worse and some its kind of equivalent-ish. Also really depends on how much DPS vs. cleric mana you have going on.
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Yea bards don't boost rogues enough for it to be worth it. 5% more dps isn't better than approx 25-30% more mana over the course of the fight
assuming 3600 start mana and 1400 regen from c2/potg/gob, and another 1400 from bard (20/tick*10*7mins)
If it was a little closer it'd be worth it though, because at 7 minutes usually a lot of your dps is dead anyways from tank swaps. Good bumping and getting DI procs do the most. Losing even 1 dps is a bigger impact than what group a bard goes in
01-30-2024, 12:02 PM
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