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Old 01-29-2024, 04:41 PM
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If you're hoping for a 1, and you roll a D12 twelve times, you are not guaranteed to get a 1.
Of course not! But on average if you roll a d12 twelve times, you will get a 1 at least once. I never said it is a guarantee. I said it is the average.

You don't seem to realize that the other DPS values in my example are calculated in the exact same way. If you disagree with the proc rate average, then you must also disagree with all of the other average DPS's in the example, and change them too. You do not get to cherry pick one number and change it simply to make your side look better.
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Old 01-29-2024, 04:45 PM
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Of course not! But on average if you roll a d12 twelve times, you will get a 1 at least once. I never said it is a guarantee. I said it is the average.

You don't seem to realize that the other DPS values in my example are calculated in the exact same way. If you disagree with the proc rate average, then you must also disagree with all of the other average DPS's in the example, and change them too. You do not get to cherry pick one number and change it simply to make your side look better.
The proc rate is the only calculation where the damage from a successful event is not independent on prior events. This is the point you're failing to understand.

Every other damage calculation is independent. The damage of the second Winter's Roar is independent of the first Winter's Roar. The damage done by a second proc is not independent of whether the first swing procced.

Duik gets it.
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Old 01-29-2024, 04:48 PM
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The proc rate is the only calculation where the damage from a successful event is not independent on prior events. This is the point you're failing to understand.

Every other damage calculation is independent. The damage of the second Winter's Roar is independent of the first Winter's Roar. The damage done by a second proc is not independent of whether the first swing procced.
That is what you are missing. Proc rate is also independent, because proc rate isn't affected by whether or not you land a hit on the mob. You just need to SWING. This means it works the same way as melee combat.

When you swing, let's say you have a 50% chance to hit or miss. At the same exact time that you swing, you have a 12% chance to proc the weapon. There is nothing more complicated going on. They are both independent dice rolls that trigger on a per swing basis.
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