Make MQ EPIC farming Illegal

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's always such a caricature of a player as well.

For those who aren't in the know, OP is the typical epic hungry shaman player. This was their post in Green Trading:

"46 shammy here , im gonna get rammed flammed and shammed but im asking for a free tear if anyone has , never had epic on a shammy nor played a shammy and its really damn fun lol. Would be amazing if anyone had an extra one for real, id be in your debt majorly. Thanks"

So basically a shaman who just got to planar level and who just expects to have his epic handed to him. Probably didn't do the real quest either and just grinded some faction. Completely unaware of the nature of this server, that lots of shaman players get their epic well after hitting 60, that getting your epic is a journey which takes making friends, learning how to handle encounters/fights, stuff like that, and prefers the idea of the entire server's rules being changed to let him get his shiny toy.

Never mind of course that said change would have the complete opposite effect, and that he wouldn't even be able to farm his way up to his epic.

OP, get to 60, join a raiding guild, get your epic. Better people than you worked harder for their toys.

Do many shamans on P99 bother doing 'the quest' at this point on P99?

Seems an easy get you want to gatekeep for.. reasons?

[fortior]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do many shamans on P99 bother doing 'the quest' at this point on P99?

Seems an easy get you want to gatekeep for.. reasons?

Yeah I did. I did the quest, made friends, got the epic, and it felt great. Imagine not feeling like you’re owed something and doing your best to achieve a goal one way or another.

[ya.dingus]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I did. I did the quest, made friends, got the epic, and it felt great. Imagine not feeling like you’re owed something and doing your best to achieve a goal one way or another.

Good for you.

I don't care.

I don't want to be subject to joining the ranks of other people I'm disinterested in interacting with.

I'm not keen on the boot licking and brown nosing that accompanies guild politics or performing the dance of quid pro quo to get a goal I want completed.

There should be alternate methods for doing it.

Sorry but a large number of people don't want to be forced to socialize with strangers they couldn't care less about, and are instead only interested in their own business and friends they want to deal with.

It's why there are GDPR raids now in WoW. Why put up with the BS guilds come with when you can just achieve your goals with none of the PR and other nonsense.

I don't want to join your discord, I don't want to be subjected to your voice and thoughts and other background noises you have going on. Keep that stuff contained to your own corner of the world, thanks.

[Rader]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good for you.

I don't care.

I don't want to be subject to joining the ranks of other people I'm disinterested in interacting with.

I'm not keen on the boot licking and brown nosing that accompanies guild politics or performing the dance of quid pro quo to get a goal I want completed.

There should be alternate methods for doing it.

Sorry but a large number of people don't want to be forced to socialize with strangers they couldn't care less about, and are instead only interested in their own business and friends they want to deal with.

It's why there are GDPR raids now in WoW. Why put up with the BS guilds come with when you can just achieve your goals with none of the PR and other nonsense.

I don't want to join your discord, I don't want to be subjected to your voice and thoughts and other background noises you have going on. Keep that stuff contained to your own corner of the world, thanks.

...care to elaborate?

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I did. I did the quest, made friends, got the epic, and it felt great. Imagine not feeling like you’re owed something and doing your best to achieve a goal one way or another.

I think it's great you wasted your time with a pointless quest but I don't think it's great to belittle others for not doing so.

[fortior]

Originally Posted by ya.dingus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There should be alternate methods for doing it.

There are alternate methods. Just like in real life, you can exchange money for goods and services.

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's great you wasted your time with a pointless quest but I don't think it's great to belittle others for not doing so.

Time spent making friends and having fun is never pointless. Time spent chasing after a classic EQ item without caring about developing social bonds sounds like a complete waste of time, on the other hand. In the end you have what, a stat stick that lets you root rot mobs better? And no friends? Lol.

Honestly the remarks about likeable behavior and making friends being characterized as 'quid pro quo' and 'brownnosing' say it all. Extremely cynical, antisocial people who see every relationship as purely transactional. It's a shame that modern video game design tries to appeal to your sort of person instead of just pushing you out on an ice floe to float away.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Time spent making friends and having fun is never pointless. Time spent chasing after a classic EQ item without caring about developing social bonds sounds like a complete waste of time, on the other hand. In the end you have what, a stat stick that lets you root rot mobs better? And no friends? Lol.

Honestly the remarks about likeable behavior and making friends being characterized as 'quid pro quo' and 'brownnosing' say it all. Extremely cynical, antisocial people who see every relationship as purely transactional. It's a shame that modern video game design tries to appeal to your sort of person instead of just pushing you out on an ice floe to float away.

The Tookery of your sleight of hand is impressive.

Nevermind.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are alternate methods. Just like in real life, you can exchange money for goods and services.



Time spent making friends and having fun is never pointless. Time spent chasing after a classic EQ item without caring about developing social bonds sounds like a complete waste of time, on the other hand. In the end you have what, a stat stick that lets you root rot mobs better? And no friends? Lol.

Honestly the remarks about likeable behavior and making friends being characterized as 'quid pro quo' and 'brownnosing' say it all. Extremely cynical, antisocial people who see every relationship as purely transactional. It's a shame that modern video game design tries to appeal to your sort of person instead of just pushing you out on an ice floe to float away.

I mean I guess everyone has their own ways they enjoy the game, but I generally agree with you that in a game like EQ sort of being on your own is kinda pointless. hence why I occasionally raid and don't care about loot at all, just fun to shoot the shit with people and have a good time as a big group.