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Old 01-01-2024, 08:44 PM
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I would go wizard over druid for hate minis. I think when you’re talking high value targets there’s competition as well on p99 so you need your own porter.

Highest value 4 mannable things I can think of: drusella, hate minis, fungi king, SG, ragefire.
A necro or ench can hold down DS solo, not sure if a shaman can if asked to clear by a competitor. Fungi king is gonna be a 2 man affair, soloing it is possible but kind of a party trick. The wizard can’t do much solo so probably hangs out with the ench/* to TL them as needed/help burn

If a shaman can hold DS solo then you can do shm/enc/clr/wiz and just dps down all the mushrooms or sub a nec for fd pulling the king. But I don’t think shaman is the class you want for DS and there’s nothing particularly ‘valuable’ they ‘unlock’ ie. a 3-man without shm can do the same targets, just with less manpower. But without the nec no fd pulls, the ench is mandatory and pretty much carries the group, wiz is mandatory to snipe earth staffs/shields/necro books. Shaman is like, oh we are allowed a 4th pick and we can’t just pick another ench lol

I’d go cleric for paci bracer and aego/ch but I don’t think the priest pick matters as much as people pretend it does
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Old 01-02-2024, 11:51 AM
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I would go wizard over druid for hate minis. I think when you’re talking high value targets there’s competition as well on p99 so you need your own porter.

Highest value 4 mannable things I can think of: drusella, hate minis, fungi king, SG, ragefire.
A necro or ench can hold down DS solo, not sure if a shaman can if asked to clear by a competitor. Fungi king is gonna be a 2 man affair, soloing it is possible but kind of a party trick. The wizard can’t do much solo so probably hangs out with the ench/* to TL them as needed/help burn

If a shaman can hold DS solo then you can do shm/enc/clr/wiz and just dps down all the mushrooms or sub a nec for fd pulling the king. But I don’t think shaman is the class you want for DS and there’s nothing particularly ‘valuable’ they ‘unlock’ ie. a 3-man without shm can do the same targets, just with less manpower. But without the nec no fd pulls, the ench is mandatory and pretty much carries the group, wiz is mandatory to snipe earth staffs/shields/necro books. Shaman is like, oh we are allowed a 4th pick and we can’t just pick another ench lol

I’d go cleric for paci bracer and aego/ch but I don’t think the priest pick matters as much as people pretend it does
Harla Dar might get unlocked with Shaman, you need the high MR tank, extra slower, better Malo and Torp healing I think. Maybe Guardian Wurms? Both probably need harmony though, so would probably need shm/ench/clr/druid or something like that. You won't stop gate with the comp, so would need to fight Harla on spawn, and that's busy so you would need a dedicated Harmony/kiter to have a shot.

Puppet show, but that's doable with two people.

Epic Rogue MQs, maybe. Need a Wizard for hate ports for that and I'm not sure if there's good enough pets to try for a 4 man general or not.

Possibly Prince Thirneg? I'm not sure if Harmony is enough to pull him solo, you definitely need Harmony for any chance at him though. I don't think you can break into growth with a 4 man priest group though, unless Harmony works on the protectors to get the aggro radius down enough that people can zone in. 1 Cleric is also going to get their healing stressed pretty hard even on pets with Thirneg, he hits hard. Not sure if the math works out for that or not, but Druid/Ench/Ench/Cleric is probably the team if anything works.

What else...Chardok royals, maybe? I know people low man those with enchanters sometimes, but I haven't looked at it enough to really know what you need there, but I would guess probably not a shaman since I remember that solo artist cleric getting King with puppet strings, so you're probably getting carried by the enchanters and cleric in that one.

Keldor Dek`Torek, Guardian Kozzalym could both benefit from a factioned pet puller for FTE, but any 4th with a pet to ench/ench/cleric probably works.

Can you do Vaniki, maybe? Mage or Shaman might work, but the extra Malo/Mala difference might matter there, and Shaman is probably more likely to be able to tank once slowed. I think you need a caster to start tanking at least unless you memblur it (I don't think you're supposed to do that, but not 100% sure since its in that fuzzy kindof-but-not-really-a-raid-mob type of area) since I think the pets will get it into summoning range before they get get aggro off the slowers. He hits hard enough the shaman slow might also be needed for the extra effective 20% damage reduction going from 70%->75% slow.
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