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Old 09-17-2023, 11:22 PM
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I don’t care what your guild says about you ramal you are ok in my book
He said it to me. I took it seriously. He knew I took it seriously. He never said it was a sick joke. It ruined my session, affected me for days. Until I saw him say the same thing in /ooc. He's a pervert. They should permaban him for being a pervert. No need for another reason
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Old 09-18-2023, 10:43 PM
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He said it to me. I took it seriously. He knew I took it seriously. He never said it was a sick joke. It ruined my session, affected me for days. Until I saw him say the same thing in /ooc. He's a pervert. They should permaban him for being a pervert. No need for another reason
What did he say?
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Old 09-18-2023, 11:23 PM
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What did he say?
Musta be been some real heartless shit

I can’t think of anything that would mess me up for days. Sounds like maybe a cue to work on personal mental resiliency
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Old 09-19-2023, 09:19 AM
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Musta be been some real heartless shit

I can’t think of anything that would mess me up for days. Sounds like maybe a cue to work on personal mental resiliency
Surprisingly, people are vastly different. What effects one person will not effect someone else.

Harassment is pretty cut and dry. In the real world (the vast, open space outside of your computer screen) Harassment will cost you a job and potentially cause you legal troubles.

Perhaps OP knew that this person wasn't in a very strong mental state. And then used that opportunity to harass them.

It's not up to the CSR to have everyone sing Cumbaya, but harassment is against the policy of this server for good reason.
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Old 09-19-2023, 12:57 AM
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What did he say?
I logged on and moved to tunnel. Within seconds I get a two tells from him, including the "I don't care what your guild says about you..." tirade.

So I'm shocked. And ask him to be more specific. What did these persons say, who are them etc.

He refuses to tell me. So I now question his motives to tell me this and then refuse to give more info. I promise I won't repeat I got it from him.

He knew I took the bait. He kept playing that role. Saying he didn't want to get "them" in trouble. Until eventually he stopped responding.

And I was left like this. Wondering who these people in my guild were, what were they saying, what did I do to them in order to be disliked that much, why didn't ever say anything to me face to face.

And it wasn't the same. Is this guy one of them? Or this one maybe? Obviously since it was all bullshit I couldn't think of a single legitimate reason that could be linked to anybody. So it could have been anyone, maybe this guy in my group. And I didn't talk to anyone about it, so nobody could tell me how much of a piece of shit he really is

Lasted for days. Until I saw him use a variation of the same sentence in /shout. At this moment I understood it's the kind of gaslighting, the kind of psychological and emotional abuse he routinely inflicts on unsuspecting strangers for amusement.

This guy is a scumbag and so are the pricks who defend him. He needs to be removed
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Old 09-19-2023, 02:33 AM
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I logged on and moved to tunnel. Within seconds I get a two tells from him, including the "I don't care what your guild says about you..." tirade.

So I'm shocked. And ask him to be more specific. What did these persons say, who are them etc.

He refuses to tell me. So I now question his motives to tell me this and then refuse to give more info. I promise I won't repeat I got it from him.

He knew I took the bait. He kept playing that role. Saying he didn't want to get "them" in trouble. Until eventually he stopped responding.

And I was left like this. Wondering who these people in my guild were, what were they saying, what did I do to them in order to be disliked that much, why didn't ever say anything to me face to face.

And it wasn't the same. Is this guy one of them? Or this one maybe? Obviously since it was all bullshit I couldn't think of a single legitimate reason that could be linked to anybody. So it could have been anyone, maybe this guy in my group. And I didn't talk to anyone about it, so nobody could tell me how much of a piece of shit he really is

Lasted for days. Until I saw him use a variation of the same sentence in /shout. At this moment I understood it's the kind of gaslighting, the kind of psychological and emotional abuse he routinely inflicts on unsuspecting strangers for amusement.

This guy is a scumbag and so are the pricks who defend him. He needs to be removed
He made you mistrust members of your guild for a few moments until you realized he's probably bullshitting you? Or did I misunderstand?

That's brutal

Hey not to be a one-upper, since distress is subjective, but some other dude recently posted about how a guy said he had a mail order wife, mocked how his dad died, and called his kids mentally disabled

But implying some of your guildmates don't like you, that's some next level shit
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Old 09-19-2023, 03:50 AM
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He made you mistrust members of your guild for a few moments until you realized he's probably bullshitting you? Or did I misunderstand?
Sorry, my English is not the best but yes, that's what he did. Except the few moments lasted several days and easily could las a lot longer if I didn't randomly stumble upon one of his EC rant.

He knew I fell for it, he knew I was upset, and kept pushing the false narrative. But he didn't go as far as telling blatant lies I could easily debunk. He knows better. I bet he was smirking the whole time, and probably bragging about it to some of his sociopathic friends, and this thread shows, they aren't too uncommon out there. If it ended up generating real conflict, or other consequences like me removing from the guild, it would have been a bonus.

This guy already got a temp ban. He's just got another ban and he's here whining about how he didn't do anything and we're all crybabies and whatnot. But we all know that whenever he comes back he'll be tiptoeing to his next ban first thing. So might as well pull the trigger right now. Why bother, let's take the trash out
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Old 09-19-2023, 09:03 AM
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He made you mistrust members of your guild for a few moments until you realized he's probably bullshitting you? Or did I misunderstand?

That's brutal

Hey not to be a one-upper, since distress is subjective, but some other dude recently posted about how a guy said he had a mail order wife, mocked how his dad died, and called his kids mentally disabled

But implying some of your guildmates don't like you, that's some next level shit
Dalsavis of Kingdom once told my friend "I hope your family dies in a car accident and you're the first one on the scene." Because my friend was camping ass/sup in LGuk, and he wanted the camp.

This game brings out the worst in people. Lots of real scum on this game. And they get defended by enablers who say shit like "Oh it's just words"

Can't hide behind that excuse forever.
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Old 09-19-2023, 11:27 AM
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Dalsavis of Kingdom once told my friend "I hope your family dies in a car accident and you're the first one on the scene." Because my friend was camping ass/sup in LGuk, and he wanted the camp.

This game brings out the worst in people
Not necessarily the game, just the raid scene and the high end zones or big ticket camps IMO

I have never once had a bad experience in years of playing off and on from lev 1-58. Not even that, almost all of my experiences have been overwhelming positive and disgustingly friendly, not even neutral

(There was one time when a dark elf was being a total dick to me for no reason, until he snuck in that was roleplaying since my char was a high elf)

IMO the way to avoid the negative is to not engage in the raid scene or go for the high end camps. But I don’t think that is all that unique to this game. Sweaties will be sweaties no matter what game. It takes a certain amount of social awkwardness to drive someone to want to stay inside and play video games for most of the day. And once someone gets to the top end, elitism sets in

And social awkwardness + elitism is a bad combo when it comes to personal interaction. But again, it exists in a lot of diff games too, at the high end
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Old 09-19-2023, 01:10 PM
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my experiences have been overwhelming positive and disgustingly friendly, not even neutral
Teal was like this. You nailed it.

On Green its top end elitism and unneccessary antogonism due to scarcity. Who knew so many wanted to turn this PvE game into a PvP game. (discluding the Zek folks obviously)
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