SK Race Choice

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s a very common generalization. Assuming level 60, on high level raid targets. If it was less than 10% people wouldn’t be so thirsty for Primals. If it was much more than 10% people would scream at shamans for it even more than they do already.

It feels like a cheesy estimation but my best avatar disc on vindi was 110 dps and I died 3 seconds before it faded. Top one before that was mid 90’’s for a slightly longer fight.

That's some nice DPS! Thanks for sharing that. Always nice to see more parses.

[Ripqozko]

My best ranger vindi

/GU Derakor the Vindicator in 132s, 175k @1326dps --- A Drakkel Dire Wolf 20k @161dps --- Knapsack 16k @121dps --- Ripqozko 15k @118dps --- Idrinkk 13k @109dps --- Rikyr 12k @92dps --- Trazzle 12k @89dps --- Gatitos 11k @87dps --- Logaluger 11k @85dps --- Jenssen 10k @78dps --- Torstein 10k @75dps

The reason folks say 10% is cause of the attack boost. The stats are fluff usually for dps on raiders , the dex and agi are nice but don't really boost raid dps (yes I know procs but lot don't land on raid targets).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My best ranger vindi

/GU Derakor the Vindicator in 132s, 175k @1326dps --- A Drakkel Dire Wolf 20k @161dps --- Knapsack 16k @121dps --- Ripqozko 15k @118dps --- Idrinkk 13k @109dps --- Rikyr 12k @92dps --- Trazzle 12k @89dps --- Gatitos 11k @87dps --- Logaluger 11k @85dps --- Jenssen 10k @78dps --- Torstein 10k @75dps

The reason folks say 10% is cause of the attack boost. The stats are fluff usually for dps on raiders , the dex and agi are nice but don't really boost raid dps (yes I know procs but lot don't land on raid targets).

Ah if the quote is specific to raiding that makes sense, as you are probably not getting the full 100 STR due to it being closer to cap already from gear and FoS.

Thanks for the clarity.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah if the quote is specific to raiding that makes sense, as you are probably not getting the full 100 STR due to it being closer to cap already from gear and FoS.

Thanks for the clarity.

I also think you underestimate how good 5% boost in general is, an entire raid 5% higher is a lot of cumulative dps, a lot of people are raiding months to add any % , 5 is a lot.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think you underestimate how good 5% boost in general is, an entire raid 5% higher is a lot of cumulative dps, a lot of people are raiding months to add any % , 5 is a lot.

The context in which you use the 5% matters.

If you are talking about the starting stat thread, you need to remember the context. In a raid you are getting enough STR from buffs to cap STR, so you are getting no DPS benefit from the extra 20 STR from starting stats.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The context in which you use the 5% matters.

If you are talking about the starting stat thread, you need to remember the context. In a raid you are getting enough STR from buffs to cap STR, so you are getting no DPS benefit from the extra 20 STR from starting stats.

i think your biggest issue dsm is your only willing to look at things in context of black and white. most dont get benefit of avatar or being capped or whatever for awhile. is there a theoretical bis stat? sure, is the 4 years of waiting to get to that point less important and not quality use of the stat until then? you are only willing to list the absolute best case instead of qualifying what it takes for someone to get there as if those time periods are not worth anything. if you are still benefiting from str which lot do, then the boost of dps is still nice. hell you cant even cap sta on your big ass SK without primal essence. Instead of just shutting down people as always being wrong, try having a conversation. When you talk the way you do, you dont invite conversation you invite conflict.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think your biggest issue dsm is your only willing to look at things in context of black and white. most dont get benefit of avatar or being capped or whatever for awhile. is there a theoretical bis stat? sure, is the 4 years of waiting to get to that point less important and not quality use of the stat until then? you are only willing to list the absolute best case instead of qualifying what it takes for someone to get there as if those time periods are not worth anything. if you are still benefiting from str which lot do, then the boost of dps is still nice. hell you cant even cap sta on your big ass SK without primal essence. Instead of just shutting down people as always being wrong, try having a conversation. When you talk the way you do, you dont invite conversation you invite conflict.

This is the problem. You make assumptions about people, create a strawman, and then talk to the strawman.

I wouldn't be asking you to look at the context if I thought in black and white.

I do not shut down conversations or tell people they are always wrong. You are applying black and white thinking to me with that kind of talk lol.