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[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Evangelicals can educate their own children however poorly they want, the problem is they're trying to gut public education so nobody has a choice and they get to profit from it. Lots of GOPers, especially from red states, are heavily invested in for profit schools. My wife was a teacher in South Carolina and it's a huge shit show, they're actively trying to destroy public education (and defrauding the federal government in the process. All MAGA's are crooks and traitors.

What’s ruining public education IMO are behavior problems

I go into schools all the time for work, and there isn’t much porn or political indoctrination that I’ve seen

The kids who aren’t getting educated are the kids with behavior problems. Kids with major behaviors burn out the staff and end up being just babysat and pushed through the grades while being barely literate

Also, the other kids that fail are the ones that choose to. Any kid can drop out of high school by age 16 and the parent can go fuck themselves in regards to the kid’s schooling for 2 years until they kick the kid out, if they can’t motivate the kid to continue school in some other way. And this is a decent amount of kids, especially from poor areas

Major behavior problems from kids are what fucks not only those kid’s education over, but also the kids around them sometimes

Anything else is a red herring issue

[Lune]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What’s ruining public education IMO are behavior problems

I go into schools all the time for work, and there isn’t much porn or political indoctrination that I’ve seen

The kids who aren’t getting educated are the kids with behavior problems. Kids with major behaviors burn out the staff and end up being just babysat and pushed through the grades while being barely literate

Also, the other kids that fail are the ones that choose to. Any kid can drop out of high school by age 16 and the parent can go fuck themselves in regards to the kid’s schooling for 2 years until they kick the kid out, if they can’t motivate the kid to continue school in some other way. And this is a decent amount of kids, especially from poor areas

Major behavior problems from kids are what fucks not only those kid’s education over, but also the kids around them sometimes

Anything else is a red herring issue

Again my wife is a teacher and it is more complicated than that. When it comes to behavior, it's mostly God awful terrible parents who do absolutely nothing to guide their child's behavioral development, and then when their little animal runs into problems with the school, the parents lash out at the staff rather than look inward. And districts tend to placate parents. It's not the teachers job to parent your kid.

It's like an extension of the NIMBYism that is destroying blue states, except it's "Not My BabY!", a culture of complete narcissism, neglect, and lack of self awareness. In Washington, my wife will be part of a union, be paid twice as much, and work primarily with the children of the wealthy. So I'm eager to see how that pans out culturally and if parents are still shit.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again my wife is a teacher and it is more complicated than that. When it comes to behavior, it's mostly God awful terrible parents who do absolutely nothing to guide their child's behavioral development, and then when their little animal runs into problems with the school, the parents lash out at the staff rather than look inward. And districts tend to placate parents.

It's like an extension of the NIMBYism that is destroying blue states, except it's "Not My BabY!", a culture of complete narcissism, neglect, and lack of self awareness. In Washington, my wife will be part of a union, be paid twice as much, and work primarily with the children of the wealthy. So I'm eager to see how that pans out culturally and if parents are still shit.

I agree on the shit parent contributing

But from what I’ve seen in AZ public schools, the material is more than adequate to get the kids into college. Bantering about classes is something I do with every kid I talk to at school pretty much

What’s make or break isn’t the material, it’s the kid giving a shit or not. For kids that are struggling, public schools offer study hour and tutoring. Once again though, what matters is whether the kid cares about their education or not (and not for the same reason as a parent might. Sometimes the reason is to not disappoint their parent or to get some reward)