Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should be asking yourself this question. If you really thought I was wrong, you would have provided evidence long ago to prove it.

Instead, you keep posting the same psychoanalytic nonsense in an attempt to undermine the argument because you have no evidence.

Troxx provided real mage group dps data.

The ball has always been in your court. You never provided anything similar other than a single mob solo video which has nothing to do with anything relevant/requested.

So until that point, nobody needs to provide you with evidence. The more you continue to not provide this, the less credible you become.

I am still willing to provide my enchanter to test this. So as soon as you want to set this up, let me know.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troxx provided real mage group dps data.

The ball has always been in your court. You never provided anything similar other than a single mob solo video which has nothing to do with anything relevant/requested.

So until that point, nobody needs to provide you with evidence. The more you continue to not provide this, the less credible you become.

I provided better evidence than he did, video evidence with logs. He posted a screenshot that he admits was incorrect.

Allishia provided real evidence via logs with the Epic Pet, and I used that evidence later on in the discussion.

It is up to Troxx to prove his theory that solo DPS cannot translate to group DPS, for example. He is making that claim, not me.

If you understood how the game works, you would know this is nonsense. Grouping doesn't change a mob's stats. If you can do 50 DPS to it solo, you can do 50 DPS to it grouped.

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I knew you were going to say that. But you're missing the point, which you can't seem to address:

Why are you still here if we're all wrong?

Forget the appeal to the majority fallacy. Answer the question. I'm not arguing that more people = truth here.

I am here to show people that your argument is not based on facts, and therefore you shouldn't assume it to be true. Why are you here?

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I provided better evidence than he did, video evidence with logs. He posted a screenshot that he admits was incorrect.

Allishia provided real evidence via logs with the Epic Pet, and I used that evidence later on in the discussion.

It is up to Troxx to prove his theory that solo DPS cannot translate to group DPS, for example. He is making that claim, not me.

If you understood how the game works, you would know this is nonsense. Grouping doesn't change a mob's stats. If you can do 50 DPS to it solo, you can do 50 DPS to it grouped.



I am here to show people that your argument is not based on facts, and therefore you shouldn't assume it to be true. Why are you here?

If you understood how the game worked, you would know that solo dps does not always translate to group dps. When soloing you are guaranteed your epic will hit full duration. You cannot guarantee this in a group.

So unfortunately, all your evidence is invalid, and we will continue to wait for real evidence by you.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you understood how the game worked, you would know that solo dps does not always translate to group dps. When soloing you are guaranteed your epic will hit full duration. You cannot guarantee this in a group.

So unfortunately, all your evidence is invalid, and we will continue to wait for real evidence by you.

He thinks he hasn't lost if he's the one that gets the last word.

I can't lie and say I'm laughing. I'm just exasperated how a person could be this way. I have never seen anyone be this stubborn over such an innocuous issue before.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He thinks he hasn't lost if he's the one that gets the last word.

I can't lie and say I'm laughing. I'm just exasperated how a person could be this way. I have never seen anyone be this stubborn over such an innocuous issue before.

DSM is a unique kind of troll.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you understood how the game worked, you would know that solo dps does not always translate to group dps. When soloing you are guaranteed your epic will hit full duration. You cannot guarantee this in a group.

So unfortunately, all your evidence is invalid, and we will continue to wait for real evidence by you.

If you had watched my videos, you would know I am not using Epic[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It was simply DDs and my pet.

Nor have I claimed that Epic DoT specifically is always going to tick all the way up. You are not guaranteed to get a full Epic DoT in solo situations too, so I am not sure what you are trying to say there. It just proves my point that soloing and grouping is still the same.

For a consistent DoT like Bane or Poxx, it is doing the same damage every 6 seconds.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you had watched my videos, you would know I am not using Epic[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It was simply DDs and my pet.

Nor have I claimed that Epic DoT specifically is always going to tick all the way up. You are not guaranteed to get a full Epic DoT in solo situations too, so I am not sure what you are trying to say there. It just proves my point that soloing and grouping is still the same.

For a consistent DoT like Bane or Poxx, it is doing the same damage every 6 seconds.

Trust me, you’d run oom quickly trying to bane/pox/canni to keep up with dps. You’d also have no mana for slows, diminishing your utility.

So you’d likely just be clicking jbb.

Again, we’re still waiting for you provide group evidence to dispute otherwise. We don’t care what you did solo. And we don’t care if you think solo dps equals group dps. If you continue to disregard our requests, then there’s no reason for you to be in this thread anymore.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trust me, you’d run oom quickly trying to bane/pox/canni to keep up with dps. You’d also have no mana for slows, diminishing your utility.

So you’d likely just be clicking jbb.

Again, we’re still waiting for you provide group evidence to dispute otherwise. We don’t care what you did solo. And we don’t care if you think solo dps equals group dps. If you continue to disregard our requests, then there’s no reason for you to be in this thread anymore.

Asking me for evidence of a claim you are making is silly. You need to show proof that DPS differs between solo and group situations. That is not my claim, it is yours.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Asking me for evidence of a claim you are making is silly. You need to show proof that DPS differs between solo and group situations. That is not my claim, it is yours.

I don’t need to prove anything. You came into a group discussion claiming solo shaman dps is equivalent. This is an inherently false claim, as you would have to know what shaman group dps is to know that solo dps is different.

So the ball remains in your court. I’m willing to offer my enchanter to support your claims.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Asking me for evidence of a claim you are making is silly. You need to show proof that DPS differs between solo and group situations. That is not my claim, it is yours.

Does this even need to be pointed out why this is illogical reasoning? Considering we've covered this before in many pages prior?

This is a counter argument meant to exhaust the opponent.

Edit: A person could show video evidence to prove DSM wrong, but it's just not worth it. DSM is an unscrupulous sociopath who will secretly think "Wow! You're actually stupid enough to go this distance".

Trust me. That is exactly the kind of person he is.