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Old 06-19-2023, 10:58 AM
Tnair Tnair is offline
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Additional experience from leveling in Karnor's recently: an instrument bard who regularly charms an add, is doing way more dps than a bard dual wielding.

I support all bards choosing how they want to play though. No shame for doing sub-"optimal" dps and having fun instead.
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Old 06-19-2023, 05:56 PM
Borak Borak is offline
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Well sure, if you're in a situation where you can charm, charm will do more dps. If you're a bard on a Dain raid where Dain is typically pulled to zone, you're being suboptimal if you don't melee, regardless of whether you're in cleric group pumping mana or in tank group. Everyone is bunched into a small area, small enough in fact that both mana songs can hit the clerics while you're in melee range of Dain, so be optimal and start swinging.
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Old 06-19-2023, 06:06 PM
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Well sure, if you're in a situation where you can charm, charm will do more dps. If you're a bard on a Dain raid where Dain is typically pulled to zone, you're being suboptimal if you don't melee, regardless of whether you're in cleric group pumping mana or in tank group. Everyone is bunched into a small area, small enough in fact that both mana songs can hit the clerics while you're in melee range of Dain, so be optimal and start swinging.
You can charm at dain
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Old 06-19-2023, 08:09 PM
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It's not like charm requires an instrument; you can often melee while charming.
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Old 06-19-2023, 09:13 PM
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It's not like charm requires an instrument; you can often melee while charming.
Just saying ya can in the spot you were referencing
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Old 06-19-2023, 11:01 PM
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Those thurgb mobs have spicy mr. A bard can solo charm pair-kill them by stacking mr debuffs and swapping with one you charm, but if you just try to charm and recharm one against Dain I think you're going to have a bad time.
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Old 06-19-2023, 11:34 PM
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Those thurgb mobs have spicy mr. A bard can solo charm pair-kill them by stacking mr debuffs and swapping with one you charm, but if you just try to charm and recharm one against Dain I think you're going to have a bad time.
just charm one of the front guards
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