My Ranger performing better with DW compared to 2H (lvl 39) Need advice!

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by IzHaN80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't look at it that way, i will try to get one, but the only seller that was advertising one, we were skipping each other for days, and i guess the person got to sell it finally. I am using Discord Bot, i never got success when trying to find items throught post forums.

Idk bout leveling it def shines with raid gear, cek sword outdpses my kriezen flame.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idk bout leveling it def shines with raid gear, cek sword outdpses my kriezen flame.

Let’s see some parses comparing the 2.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let’s see some parses comparing the 2.

/GU Aaryonar in 497s, 425k @855 | Shoeshineboy 31465@(66 in 472s) | Phillip 24982@(53 in 470s) | Scian 24574@(51 in 473s) | Ripqozko 21916@(50 in 435s) | Lisson 21106@(47 in 444s) | Pulz 20502@(44 in 461s) | Gatruk 20476@(46 in 436s) | Enviee 19119@(43 in 441s) | Cattiebree 18603@(42 in 436s) | Simorgh 16999@(36 in 461s) | Satsugai 16042@(37 in 426s) | Kushnada 15302@(32 in 475s) | Choamsky 15151@(38 in 392s) | Joraah 14458@(31 in 465s) | Zogaguk 13400@(30 in 440s)

was my last cek parse, my ranger mostly stays inside vp now. as you can see i beat monks tho and 1 rogue. (lisson rogue, pulz, gatruk monks, cattiebree monk)

choamsky is ya normal dual wield ranger, forgot what he uses.

[jgold16]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/GU Aaryonar in 497s, 425k @855 | Shoeshineboy 31465@(66 in 472s) | Phillip 24982@(53 in 470s) | Scian 24574@(51 in 473s) | Ripqozko 21916@(50 in 435s) | Lisson 21106@(47 in 444s) | Pulz 20502@(44 in 461s) | Gatruk 20476@(46 in 436s) | Enviee 19119@(43 in 441s) | Cattiebree 18603@(42 in 436s) | Simorgh 16999@(36 in 461s) | Satsugai 16042@(37 in 426s) | Kushnada 15302@(32 in 475s) | Choamsky 15151@(38 in 392s) | Joraah 14458@(31 in 465s) | Zogaguk 13400@(30 in 440s)

was my last cek parse, my ranger mostly stays inside vp now. as you can see i beat monks tho and 1 rogue. (lisson rogue, pulz, gatruk monks, cattiebree monk)

choamsky is ya normal dual wield ranger, forgot what he uses.

Sorry, which weapon set up are you using? Gives me hope for my growing ranger. At 52 using:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Crescent_Blades_of_Luclin
https://wiki.project1999.com/Exquisite_Velium_Warsword

[Snaggles]

Mathematical ratio before Dmg Bonus:

14/28 .50 Silken whip
11/25 .44 green jade broadsword

31/42. .7380 springwood
31/35. .8857 woodsman
16.6% better ratio

Even accounting for the mainhand damage bonus at level 39 for 1h it’s 4 and for the Springwood it’s 7. That means the delay silken whip is .1428 delay/second where the Springwood is only .1666. At 60 the 1h goes to 11 and the Springwood to 34.

In short 2h at the low levels is more hit and miss, or at least high vs low. Later your minimum hit is still fairly decent and the ratios are significantly better than even the best 1h weapons. The woodsman or an exquisite 2h is going to offer significantly better performance for the money. I expect a SBoZ and Swiftwind will edge it out in the mid 50’s but it won’t be a blow-out defeat due to what’s happened in the last big 2h patch. Scaling 2h damage bonus is a big deal.

A few thoughts:
* Simple bias: you tend to remember the good and bad fights. 1h hits are closer in spread so you won’t fixate in them as much. Over time ratio averages better but our minds don’t parse like computers weighing hours of melee hits and making rational judgement.
* Sample size: A few kills either way can confirm bias but aren’t necessarily accurate.
* Hit tracking/fearing: If you are fearing the cougars it’s more likely to whiff due to client lag with a slow 2h. 1h’s give you numerical feedback and it’s easier to track where the npc is. At least for me sometimes.
* Level: Perhaps a lazy closer but at 39 I wouldn’t form firm opinions of specific setups. Your class will evolve a lot as will the gear. Upgrade for fun and survival but be careful in locking up opinions this early. Even at 60 there is a lot of bias and tropes to unpack…as you can see on the forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for endgame 2h vs 1h if you are just talking taking a ranger (or any melee) up a notch performance wise 2h is very strong. You also just need one fairly casual drop (Gozzrem for example) whereas often a DW kit is many times the dkp. My cek 2h seems to parse 7-10% higher than my Silver Whip or Rage and Claw or Lightning. On vindi with VoG the best I’ve done DW besides the BFG is 64dps. I was able to do 71dps with the cek with shiss and a spiked seahorse belt. Granted a Kreizzen or Baton of Flame is better so it might close the gap a bit.

In the end a ToV/PoG equipped melee who hunts down buffs and tries hard will notably outperform a casual geared character (often via the tryhard part). Whether 1hs or 2h the tier is bumped up. I still think a SBoZ/Swiftwind ranger can put down a very solid performance with some parse luck. Given a wide enough sample though (I like to combine parses for a night’s performance) they should fall behind a bit.