Effective Necro Combat Techniques

[Bubbles]

Reason the ball is so spendy is because the classes that actually care about thier max mana (Wiz/Mag/Enc), it's the only option.. And the dagger is necro only. Since we're just as happy with hitpoints it's a no-brainer.

And like i said, i use idol of the thorned simply for the hps and STR boost (i also wear a TBB).. After you've played a necro for a while you'll realize that the only stat that's going to matter in the long run is maxxing your STR so you can hold more PP and loots in between bank runs. lol and that's the truth.

[aresprophet]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reason the ball is so spendy is because the classes that actually care about thier max mana (Wiz/Mag/Enc), it's the only option.. And the dagger is necro only. Since we're just as happy with hitpoints it's a no-brainer.

And like i said, i use idol of the thorned simply for the hps and STR boost (i also wear a TBB).. After you've played a necro for a while you'll realize that the only stat that's going to matter in the long run is maxxing your STR so you can hold more PP and loots in between bank runs. lol and that's the truth.

Dagger of Marnek is 3 int 15 mana, not 15 hp. So it loses out to the ball at all levels and at all int values in terms of pure mana.

But not by much; pre-softcap at 50 the ball is 50 mana while the dagger is 45, and post-softcap the ball is 40 and the dagger is 30. So it's not a huge difference. Idol of the Thorned gives 30 hp at level 60, and its a much more costly item.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by aresprophet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dagger of Marnek is 3 int 15 mana, not 15 hp. So it loses out to the ball at all levels and at all int values in terms of pure mana.

But not by much; pre-softcap at 50 the ball is 50 mana while the dagger is 45, and post-softcap the ball is 40 and the dagger is 30. So it's not a huge difference. Idol of the Thorned gives 30 hp at level 60, and its a much more costly item.

Right, i never said the marnek dagger was 15 hps, i meant the the idol was going to give you 15hps (and closer to 30 at level 60, yeah).

My main point of contention is to realize that the necro's need for the ball isn't anywhere near the 'need' of a mage/enc/wiz.. and that's the 3 people you are competing with in EC for the item. And those 3 don't have your marnek dagger fallback prize, so it's worth relatively *tons* more to them than it will be to you.

It'd be like an enchanter bidding against a bard or necro for an orb of tishan. The enchanter can use it, it's beneficial to them to have it, but it's much more effective and desired by the latter two classes.

Kinda like how most necros look at a hand of the reaper, /shrug their shoulders and wonder 'why isn't that a MAG item?", on the basis of what they would have to give up out of their current gearset to equip it... for +mana/int/vanity.