Sharing accounts should be bannable

[Solist]

What lesson did they learn?

Account selling was no big deal. Server ran smooth and fine, no issues really resulted from it.

The RMT side of things is a different story. But buying and selling accounts for plat on p99 was perfectly fine and common here for a good while.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What lesson did they learn?

Account selling was no big deal. Server ran smooth and fine, no issues really resulted from it.

The RMT side of things is a different story. But buying and selling accounts for plat on p99 was perfectly fine and common here for a good while.

Those who had the Plat to buy accounts were majority the ones doing the RMT in the first place, so they linked anyway. Either way...not classic, just like account sharing. No one should have such an advantage that they can just pass off their account to someone else to hold a camp they haven't gotten their item from yet. And is incredibly easy to confirm by staff whether or not someone logged in from the same place or not after 'disconnecting'.

[sajbert]

Account sharing creates all sorts of problems.

I don’t even know why we want guildbots for instance.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Account sharing creates all sorts of problems.

I don’t even know why we want guildbots for instance.

I like that bots give players access to content they may not be levelled or keyed for as well as making raiding accessible for someone who isn’t able to keep a toon of their own on park.

That said, bots do seem to be taking over.

At the moment guilds are putting immense pressure on levelling and gearing bots.

Who even owns the guild bots? Many get very well geared but then disappear in the constant cycle of guild mergers etc.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who even owns the guild bots? Many get very well geared but then disappear in the constant cycle of guild mergers etc.

how to get an alt leveled and geared for free off of the backs of no life neckbeards

[sajbert]

I dunno if it’s particularly good for newer players either.

“Oh, welcome lvl 46 paladin! Glad you want to raid with us. Now log onto a bot and get on the chain.”

“Anyone wanna help me get my little Cleric a Verix medallion? Last part.”
- Guild: *crickets*

“Oh look a VS wizard staff!”
*new wizard goes all in with his 50 dkp*
* guild bot bids 60*
(Ok, hopefully only rarely happens)

Guilds being able to slap down bots on location means engages are also faster and FTE is the deciding factor more often than it should be instead of mustering.

Bots also devalue the cleric and wizard class and facilitate ToV bind where the wizard guild bot lives.

[greatdane]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What lesson did they learn?

Account selling was no big deal. Server ran smooth and fine, no issues really resulted from it.

The RMT side of things is a different story. But buying and selling accounts for plat on p99 was perfectly fine and common here for a good while.

Yeah, sold my first account for 50k plat back in like 2011 when it was allowed. Financed my next main that way.

To be honest, they can't realistically police account-sharing. There's no such thing in our day and age as a consistent method of online identification unless they want to get into 2FA with a dongle or some shit. What else are they gonna do, ban anyone who logs on from an IP that isn't their "usual one"? The interwebs don't work that way anymore. Most people probably play from at least two different locations, judging by the amount of clerics in my groups who are at work. Seemingly as professional jugglers.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, sold my first account for 50k plat back in like 2011 when it was allowed. Financed my next main that way.

To be honest, they can't realistically police account-sharing. There's no such thing in our day and age as a consistent method of online identification unless they want to get into 2FA with a dongle or some shit. What else are they gonna do, ban anyone who logs on from an IP that isn't their "usual one"? The interwebs don't work that way anymore. Most people probably play from at least two different locations, judging by the amount of clerics in my groups who are at work. Seemingly as professional jugglers.

They *could* put a limit, of say 5 IPs per account per month. When you try to login as IP #6, you can't.

It would hurt people using VPNs, but normal players (even the ones that play at work, and on two home computers, and a steam deck at a coffee shop) would be unaffected.

[Vsai]

There are ways to set this up. The client has access to all the information it needs. Pairing accounts to ips and client identifiers. (This computer is running this client on this IP)
Registration by account owners. Do anything within your scope and it works. Your id's, IP's, computer identifier. The client already has the access. The trick here is because permissions are one way, you can't register to another pairing. So if you share with your friend, guess what your friend can't use that PC client or account for their own shit. And only one of you can log on at a time. It's entirely possible to do, but would require dev time.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Vsai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are ways to set this up. The client has access to all the information it needs. Pairing accounts to ips and client identifiers. (This computer is running this client on this IP)
Registration by account owners. Do anything within your scope and it works. Your id's, IP's, computer identifier. The client already has the access. The trick here is because permissions are one way, you can't register to another pairing. So if you share with your friend, guess what your friend can't use that PC client or account for their own shit. And only one of you can log on at a time. It's entirely possible to do, but would require dev time.

Minimal time. Just needs a few lines of code added. Can apply for an exemption to play from work just like with multiple IPs from one location, and if something seems fishy it'll get reported, looked into, and handled accordingly. Simple solutions to major problems. Idk why so many people wanna make it more difficult than it needs to be.