What to do starting out?

[Loadsamoney]

Why are people saying Wizard is a difficult starting class? The concept is simple; if something is moving, nuke it. You might have downtime but it's a pretty safe class considering how strong the damage spells are, and people love the ports so it's good at money making.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are people saying Wizard is a difficult starting class? The concept is simple; if something is moving, nuke it. You might have downtime but it's a pretty safe class considering how strong the damage spells are, and people love the ports so it's good at money making.

The main problem is the down time though. The down time will basically kill someones interest in playing the game. That’s why necros are so great, because they have very limited downtime.

In fact I’m about to create another necro and play him to 60. It’s just that much fun haha.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main problem is the down time though. The down time will basically kill someones interest in playing the game. That’s why necros are so great, because they have very limited downtime.

In fact I’m about to create another necro and play him to 60. It’s just that much fun haha.

I guess we judge difficulty differently then. For me, difficulty is how much trouble a class is going to have killing something on their own, regardless of downtime. If they can kill something with little danger, or the class is a one-trick pony like Wizard (nukes, nukes and more nukes) it's an easy class.

A difficult class, to me, is one that has a complicated rotation or is mechanically complex, like Bard. AoE the wrong thing unintentionally, you die. Get stunned in the middle of swarm kiting, you die. Draw the aggro in a group because of a charm/mez breaking, you probably die. There's a lot that can go wrong for Bards, a lot is expected of them in groups (constantly twisting and rotating songs to adapt to group needs), and they are blamed easily when things turn to shit.

I'd say Shaman is relatively difficult too because a lot is expected of you in groups, from heals, buffs, slows and even damage. You don't just get to do one thing, you are multitasking and need a lot of situational awareness as a result. Wizards have one job in a group, blow things up. As long as they are aware of aggro, it's easy to play.

[Lurgort/Sseri]

The issue with a Wizard is you need a bard or enchanter in a group to contribute. You need to spend more time sitting than doing damage otherwise, whereas a Monk, Rogue, Ranger, or hell, even a Warrior will do more damage than you.

Wizard isn't difficult to play, but difficult to fit into a group because you need mana regen or you're a third wheel.

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess we judge difficulty differently then. For me, difficulty is how much trouble a class is going to have killing something on their own, regardless of downtime. If they can kill something with little danger, or the class is a one-trick pony like Wizard (nukes, nukes and more nukes) it's an easy class.

A difficult class, to me, is one that has a complicated rotation or is mechanically complex, like Bard. AoE the wrong thing unintentionally, you die. Get stunned in the middle of swarm kiting, you die. Draw the aggro in a group because of a charm/mez breaking, you probably die. There's a lot that can go wrong for Bards, a lot is expected of them in groups (constantly twisting and rotating songs to adapt to group needs), and they are blamed easily when things turn to shit.

I'd say Shaman is relatively difficult too because a lot is expected of you in groups, from heals, buffs, slows and even damage. You don't just get to do one thing, you are multitasking and need a lot of situational awareness as a result. Wizards have one job in a group, blow things up. As long as they are aware of aggro, it's easy to play.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Lurgort/Sseri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue with a Wizard is you need a bard or enchanter in a group to contribute. You need to spend more time sitting than doing damage otherwise, whereas a Monk, Rogue, Ranger, or hell, even a Warrior will do more damage than you.

Wizard isn't difficult to play, but difficult to fit into a group because you need mana regen or you're a third wheel.

Unless the group needs an evac, then you're a lifesaver and the difference between a profitable night and a corpse run.

[Lurgort/Sseri]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless the group needs an evac, then you're a lifesaver and the difference between a profitable night and a corpse run.

Agreed, it feels gratifying to evac a group if shit hits the fan. I've done it on my Wizard several times, but the Druid exists and can heal...to prevent such things, but in the event of an imminent wipe, Druid can also evac. Wizard needed the Clarity line, not Enchanter.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Lurgort/Sseri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed, it feels gratifying to evac a group if shit hits the fan. I've done it on my Wizard several times, but the Druid exists and can heal...to prevent such things, but in the event of an imminent wipe, Druid can also evac. Wizard needed the Clarity line, not Enchanter.

At least their epic comes with a Clarity-esque spell in Barrier of Force. Whether it's a realistic goal for most Wizards is another matter, though I doubt it's as bottlenecked as the Mage epic.

[ohatcheejack]

Down time is great for me actually!

Thanks everyone for the advice! If you see a wizzy named Majisto in game, gimme a Hail!

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by ohatcheejack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Down time is great for me actually!

Thanks everyone for the advice! If you see a wizzy named Majisto in game, gimme a Hail!

Are you on green or blue?

[ohatcheejack]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you on green or blue?

Green