Hewch, 60 Shaman of guild Axiom violated the camp rules

[Jason5671]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you could have done a lot of things that would have resulted in a scryer kill and/or holding the camp

posting in rnf trying to name and shame someone who did nothing wrong aint it bud

hope this helps

You really have reading difficulties don't you? I explained exactly what transpired, both the Scryer and the Scyrer pet were deliberately dragged to my location and rooted literally on top of me with no warning, not even so much as a courtesy tell to say "Hey I'm gonna let you have this Scryer that you are obviously camping and sorry btw. I'll root them in front of you, you may want to slow them first ok" instead in literally seconds I was in the middle of trying to send a tell getting the shite beat out of me by the Scryer and the animation pet was getting pummellled to death by the unslowed warriior pet. Of course I did the only thing any reasonable person would do .. I gated out before having to do yet another corpse run. I would be interested to know what you would have done differently. Please share.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Jason5671 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really have reading difficulties don't you? I explained exactly what transpired, both the Scryer and the Scyrer pet were deliberately dragged to my location and rooted literally on top of me with no warning, not even so much as a courtesy tell to say "Hey I'm gonna let you have this Scryer that you are obviously camping and sorry btw. I'll root them in front of you, you may want to slow them first ok" instead in literally seconds I was in the middle of trying to send a tell getting the shite beat out of me by the Scryer and the animation pet was getting pummellled to death by the unslowed warriior pet. Of course I did the only thing any reasonable person would do .. I gated out before having to do yet another corpse run. I would be interested to know what you would have done differently. Please share.

Only thing I can think of to avoid having to gate in a dicey situation is mez-blurring

Animation pet makes this impossible until it dies. Assuming you had the mana (which I imagine you probably didn’t so no worries), you could root both the mobs that were killing your pet which would give you more room to breathe

Than mez both. I forget if it works for pets this way but with 2 hostile mobs next to each other you can cast calm on them after mezzing for situations where mez doesn’t blur one it won’t social pull the other

Some enchanters cast blur but mez itself has a super high blur chance. I personally just keep mezzing until I get confirmation that they’ve been blurred (such as casting invis on myself to see if they still con hostile, if not they’ve been blurred)

[Jason5671]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only thing I can think of to avoid having to gate in a dicey situation is mez-blurring

Animation pet makes this impossible until it dies. Assuming you had the mana (which I imagine you probably didn’t so no worries), you could root both the mobs that were killing your pet which would give you more room to breathe

Than mez both. I forget if it works for pets this way but with 2 hostile mobs next to each other you can cast calm on them after mezzing for situations where mez doesn’t blur one it won’t social pull the other

Some enchanters cast blur but mez itself has a super high blur chance. I personally just keep mezzing until I get confirmation that they’ve been blurred (such as casting invis on myself to see if they still con hostile, if not they’ve been blurred)

Yes. Finally somebody gets it about the animation pet. I appreciate someone finally stepping up to the plate here with a legit response and some sound logic instead of posting chicks in skimpy outfits. I mean, really .. I'll be honest here I think this entire argument is just so completely ludicrous on so many levels but I'll entertain nonetheless. Yes I had half a mana bar and the animation pet was half health when the mobs were dropped on me. I had literally no chance to do anything before the animation pet was going down. And once it died, with two unslowed mobs beating on me, trying to get them both mezzed and or charmed, very unlikely as I did not even have charm on a spell gem slot. I would have loved to see how the ultra uber elitist Toxxigen would have survived this situation without any outside help as he claims I should have. I don't think anyone in my situation would have done much better.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jason5671 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

someone finally stepping up to the plate here with a legit response and some sound logic instead of posting chicks in skimpy outfits.

you act like the entire forum spammed you with titties. It was just me.

also

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Toxigen

that don't come easy, he's right.

[Jason5671]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you act like the entire forum spammed you with titties. It was just me.

also

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Toxigen

that don't come easy, he's right.

That's quite impressive, I'm sure he's quite proud of that. But I still fail to see how that matters to the discussion at hand. This is about Hewch's unethical play, camp stealing, and training mobs on unsuspecting players.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jason5671 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's quite impressive, I'm sure he's quite proud of that. But I still fail to see how that matters to the discussion at hand. This is about Hewch's unethical play, camp stealing, and training mobs on unsuspecting players.

Face it. The real problem here is that the scryer was still alive when Hewch ran thru.

now who are you gonna blame for that

that is toxigen's point

[Jason5671]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Face it. The real problem here is that the scryer was still alive when Hewch ran thru.

now who are you gonna blame for that

that is toxigen's point

I'm afraid I don't understand. Are you suggesting people are not allowed a brief respite for mana/health regeneration between mobs while doing a camp? This is just ludicrous and you know it.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Jason5671 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. Finally somebody gets it about the animation pet. I appreciate someone finally stepping up to the plate here with a legit response and some sound logic instead of posting chicks in skimpy outfits. I mean, really .. I'll be honest here I think this entire argument is just so completely ludicrous on so many levels but I'll entertain nonetheless. Yes I had half a mana bar and the animation pet was half health when the mobs were dropped on me. I had literally no chance to do anything before the animation pet was going down. And once it died, with two unslowed mobs beating on me, trying to get them both mezzed and or charmed, very unlikely as I did not even have charm on a spell gem slot. I would have loved to see how the ultra uber elitist Toxxigen would have survived this situation without any outside help as he claims I should have. I don't think anyone in my situation would have done much better.

At your lev with chanter being my first and only char, I would have probably gated too

It’s ok to not keep charm on your bar, most chanters don’t even when charming all the way to max level. Spell slot gems are precious real estate and multiple spell swaps per fight are usually a thing at high levels

Looking on it now, what I would have to do is an aoe stun -> GCD reset and then either a root or mez on one of the mobs. Top tier chanters keep 2 stuns in dangerous zones on their bars to rotate, but I personally don’t. That means that I’d have to at that point try to channel through rooting or mezzing the second mob (or pet or whatever)

It gets easier once you can keep a reagent-less rune on yourself in addition to a reagent rune for a little extra cushion. But aoe stun into GCD reset into either another stun or mez is pretty standard for dealing with mobs in close

But like I mentioned before, I didn’t have a GCD reset item at your lev I don’t think and woulda prolly gated too

[Jason5671]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At your lev with chanter being my first and only char, I would have probably gated too

It’s ok to not keep charm on your bar, most chanters don’t even when charming all the way to max level. Spell slot gems are precious real estate and multiple spell swaps per fight are usually a thing at high levels

Looking on it now, what I would have to do is an aoe stun -> GCD reset and then either a root or mez on one of the mobs. Top tier chanters keep 2 stuns in dangerous zones on their bars to rotate, but I personally don’t. That means that I’d have to at that point try to channel through rooting or mezzing the second mob (or pet or whatever)

It gets easier once you can keep a reagent-less rune on yourself in addition to a reagent rune for a little extra cushion. But aoe stun into GCD reset into either another stun or mez is pretty standard for dealing with mobs in close

But like I mentioned before, I didn’t have a GCD reset item at your lev I don’t think and woulda prolly gated too

All very useful information to know for the enchanter class but apples n oranges. You're talking about a situation where you know in advance what is going to happen, that you are about to be trained on and you will have all the necessary spells ready to go in order to handle the situation. My original plan was simply to mezz the warrior pet and go apeshit nuking the Scryer down quickly before any other room pops happened and hopefully kill it before its Warrior pet woke up, Once the Scryer died, so would the pet I believe so it was an all out assault against the Scryer. Hadn't really planned on any close encounters aside from whatever minimal melee damage the Scryer could dish, and I was confident I could help the Animation pet soak up some hits in order to take it down.