Green 2.0 advice

[DeliciousHalflings]

Shouldn't remove legacy items. Period. Some of them offer so much of an advantage that it's genuinely unfair to people who don't want to cheat via account sharing to not be able to get one. It eventually only became tolerable once most of the items became pure novelty (Manastone is useful up until after PoP, if you knew how to make full use of it)

There's already so many changes to p99 to compensate for the uncontrollable shitty behavior from the community (variant timers, quakes, having to actually have GM enforced raiding rules, etc) that leaving in some things that will only add to the server population because people WILL play just to be able to farm one themselves. Same with Guise, Rubi, LR armor, etc.

Lotta people don't have the time to even make it to the appropriate level to farm the items themselves before they're removed. Things like legacy items only favor people like myself who work from home on their own schedule and can play as many hours a day as they want.

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Another tip most people just won't think of...invite everyone you see until the group is full. 6 people gunning for mobs and splitting exp is gonna be a LOT quicker to get out of newbie areas than trying to kill things solo and getting killsteals or constant downtime.

(I'm not reading the entire thread, so sorry for repeated points)

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by DeliciousHalflings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shouldn't remove legacy items. Period. Some of them offer so much of an advantage that it's genuinely unfair to people who don't want to cheat via account sharing to not be able to get one. It eventually only became tolerable once most of the items became pure novelty (Manastone is useful up until after PoP, if you knew how to make full use of it)

There's already so many changes to p99 to compensate for the uncontrollable shitty behavior from the community (variant timers, quakes, having to actually have GM enforced raiding rules, etc) that leaving in some things that will only add to the server population because people WILL play just to be able to farm one themselves. Same with Guise, Rubi, LR armor, etc.

Lotta people don't have the time to even make it to the appropriate level to farm the items themselves before they're removed. Things like legacy items only favor people like myself who work from home on their own schedule and can play as many hours a day as they want.

Or just don't have legacy items at all. The point has been made that lots of servers in the classic era opened up after the items had been removed already. The legacy camps cause a ton of problems and greed and shit behavior in the community and impacts server culture so hard. Keep them out of green 2.0 and add them back in for 3.0 maybe.

But I know this isn't happening, so best we can hope for is a revamp of the /list system.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or just don't have legacy items at all. The point has been made that lots of servers in the classic era opened up after the items had been removed already. The legacy camps cause a ton of problems and greed and shit behavior in the community and impacts server culture so hard. Keep them out of green 2.0 and add them back in for 3.0 maybe.

But I know this isn't happening, so best we can hope for is a revamp of the /list system.

Leaving them in > not having them at all. Leaving them adds more things for people to camp at endgame, rather than more bottlenecking for other camps. There is no benefit to taking them out. It's p99. There is no actual discipline for people who fuck around. There's gonna be camp problems whether they're left in or not.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or just don't have legacy items at all. The point has been made that lots of servers in the classic era opened up after the items had been removed already. The legacy camps cause a ton of problems and greed and shit behavior in the community and impacts server culture so hard. Keep them out of green 2.0 and add them back in for 3.0 maybe.

But I know this isn't happening, so best we can hope for is a revamp of the /list system.

The point about server openings is nonsensical. If that’s the argument we’re going with then Green 2.0 should just start a couple months before velious.