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Old 02-22-2023, 01:02 AM
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I would highly suggest reading through this thread to its entirety.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=374659

And no it isn't all about PvP archery it applies to blue too. But not much because the low damage still isn't worth it.

In essence, it is the delay on the main hand weapon.

and Weighted Ax on Troll or Ogre or Barbarian - warrior will give you the exaggerated damage change you are experiencing.

The best you can try for is the Earthshaker as a ranger.

Luclin release date was December 4, 2001
And the indication from the posts is archery damage output on live, even before Luclin - was still not worth it...... BUT was a lot more than currently on P99.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...2&p=2#comments

P99 devs are aware of the issue and will probably fix it all servers for the red community. But you can bet the numbers seen in those posts on Allakazam won't be seen on P99... and I can't blame the Devs for not dwelling this.

Why work on something that was never really applicable until Luclin.
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Old 02-22-2023, 08:58 AM
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We are aware of the primary hand damage bonus, thats been posted in other forums and not the topic of this discussion.
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Old 02-22-2023, 09:44 AM
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We are aware of the primary hand damage bonus, thats been posted in other forums and not the topic of this discussion.
Ok if testing Archery misses. Use an Ice Burrower. I once saw 11 misses in a row while bow kiting it.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:34 AM
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OK tested Damage this morning and it proved my theory wrong, Damage between BFG in primary versus ranged was identical.

Therefore that it is not the issue in terms of explaining why archery damage is so abysmal.

It is however apparent that it is throttled.

As an example the Min, Average and Max hit for 23 damage (BFG + Summoned Arrows) on a green con paineel guard was 2, 31.14, and 52 respectively.

This does not include the 42 damage bonus from delay.

So essentially, not only is Archery damage "nerfed" on P99 since double damage, NOR trueshot affect our bonus (which technically doesnt exist unless we bug it with a slow primary 2 hander), but the base archery damage itself is severly throttled for reasons, I cannot seem to diagnose.

As the state of the server stands right now. IF I had someone anchor (non rooted, tanked) that same greeen con paineel guard, using the War Bow of Rallos Zek, I would of done 19,834 damage with 140 shots over the course of 319 seconds, for around 62.2 DPS. That is rather embarassing for a BIS bow, average raid geared ranger. And I am fairly certain the performance on live was far superior.

Rangers, literally face a worst case scenario right now in terms of DPS on P99. We face a slew of artificially rooted raid encounters, in addition to throttled archery base damage, AND bugged bonus damage which is not factored into double damage or trueshot.

While we should be able to decently compete in a non trueshot fashion with bow DPS, we should also be a viable "delete" option with trueshot that just isnt happening.
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