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Old 02-20-2023, 10:22 PM
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I don't believe the US is that psychotic.
My brother in christ, may I introduce you to 99% of our history?
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:26 PM
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My brother in christ, may I introduce you to 99% of our history?
Our so-called "crimes" are mostly Leftist revisionism.
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:33 PM
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Our so-called "crimes" are mostly Leftist revisionism.
No, Leftists blame all their failures on the CIA.

That doesn't mean the CIA wasn't going apeshit throughout the later half of the 20th century.

Trust me, military intel is one of my huge interests. The stories are absolutely insane.

Our government stops at nothing to achieve its goals.

Blowing up a pipeline in Europe is just another day to them.
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:44 PM
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No, Leftists blame all their failures on the CIA.

That doesn't mean the CIA wasn't going apeshit throughout the later half of the 20th century.

Trust me, military intel is one of my huge interests. The stories are absolutely insane.

Our government stops at nothing to achieve its goals.

Blowing up a pipeline in Europe is just another day to them.
only 3 agencies in the world have the resources to do so, CIA(US) and MI6(UK) and FIS.(RU)

it makes no sense from a military, economic, or political perspective for the FIS to blow up their own pipeline, that while wasn't in use, could have been leveraged against western support for ukraine.

such an operation would be amphibious obviously, requiring the capability to insert and extract underwater so as to avoid anyone seeing sus shit going on.

the US and UK have this capability, but there have not been any reports of UK vessels anywhere near the black sea while the US has had boats and subs in turkey for decades.

so yeah im going with the US blew up the pipeline, with "why" being a bigger question than "who"

its not gonna slow the russians down on their warplans, they weren't selling any gas via that pipeline, and it gave them a greater interest to develop energy business with other nations like china/india

so the US blew it up to prevent the future capability of russia selling gas to europe? maybe

but thats a weak reason, this is like a WTC building 7 type thing here, just a gigantic WTF
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:50 PM
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only 3 agencies in the world have the resources to do so, CIA(US) and MI6(UK) and FIS.(RU)

it makes no sense from a military, economic, or political perspective for the FIS to blow up their own pipeline, that while wasn't in use, could have been leveraged against western support for ukraine.

such an operation would be amphibious obviously, requiring the capability to insert and extract underwater so as to avoid anyone seeing sus shit going on.

the US and UK have this capability, but there have not been any reports of UK vessels anywhere near the black sea while the US has had boats and subs in turkey for decades.

so yeah im going with the US blew up the pipeline, with "why" being a bigger question than "who"

its not gonna slow the russians down on their warplans, they weren't selling any gas via that pipeline, and it gave them a greater interest to develop energy business with other nations like china/india

so the US blew it up to prevent the future capability of russia selling gas to europe? maybe

but thats a weak reason, this is like a WTC building 7 type thing here, just a gigantic WTF
You left out the possibility of a mechanical failure. UK and Russia isn't that psycho either.

Also, not the Black Sea.
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:51 PM
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You left out the possibility of a mechanical failure. Russia isn't that psycho either.
yeah I guess so, the timing is highly suspicious though
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:58 PM
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You left out the possibility of a mechanical failure. UK and Russia isn't that psycho either.

Also, not the Black Sea.
Except it was proven by Swedish authorities that it was foul play.

https://www.rferl.org/a/nord-stream-.../32136660.html
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Old 02-20-2023, 11:00 PM
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Except it was proven by Swedish authorities that it was foul play.

https://www.rferl.org/a/nord-stream-.../32136660.html
I'm not inclined to read the words of any Swede.

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Old 02-20-2023, 10:56 PM
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only 3 agencies in the world have the resources to do so, CIA(US) and MI6(UK) and FIS.(RU)

it makes no sense from a military, economic, or political perspective for the FIS to blow up their own pipeline, that while wasn't in use, could have been leveraged against western support for ukraine.

such an operation would be amphibious obviously, requiring the capability to insert and extract underwater so as to avoid anyone seeing sus shit going on.

the US and UK have this capability, but there have not been any reports of UK vessels anywhere near the black sea while the US has had boats and subs in turkey for decades.

so yeah im going with the US blew up the pipeline, with "why" being a bigger question than "who"

its not gonna slow the russians down on their warplans, they weren't selling any gas via that pipeline, and it gave them a greater interest to develop energy business with other nations like china/india

so the US blew it up to prevent the future capability of russia selling gas to europe? maybe

but thats a weak reason, this is like a WTC building 7 type thing here, just a gigantic WTF
For me, there are 2 possible suspects:

The US and Russia.

Russia COULD blow it up as a way to pressure Europe into backing off Ukraine just before winter.

But why blow it up when they can just turn it off (like they did with the other pipeline)?

The US however, has made explicit threats against the specific pipeline, including the US president smirking and telling journalists that he promises he has a way to bring the pipeline down.

The US has been wanting to stop both Nord Stream pipelines. A lot of our involvement in Syria has to do with preventing the Nord Stream dominance.

The US performed a naval exercise directly over the damage site months before the explosion and there's evidence that the US worked with Norway to remotely detonate the explosives from flight data retrieved.

I mean, all signs point to the US doing it.

And now there are politicians in Berlin threatening to kick US ambassitors out of Germany, but you won't hear that on the news.

Also, notice how the US is in no way interested in who blew up the pipeline?

Completely silent.
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Also, notice how the US is in no way interested in who blew up the pipeline?

Completely silent.
yeah things like that bother me. WTC building 7, the atlanta AT&T bombing on christmas morning 2 years ago.

huge ridiculous things happen and if the main stream media doesn't carry it, then it fades from public knowledge.

i mean obviously they want everyone to forget, but a few of us don't, and I demand answers.
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