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Old 02-08-2023, 03:15 AM
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ngl, sounds like planning was the main downfall

whats the point of making a rule if you have no way to enforce it?
wouldnt a multi server test of tactics still have red push through even if only one team?
and i feel like thinking ahead could have cured everything, even brackets you could have opened then closed a week before hand to give time to see who is coming.
then theres blues date during superbowl.

again, i dont think there is anything malicious or anything but, more planning/less rule changing>

curious btw what the thought was behind banning different clickies and spells and fighting stage size though.
We had made the decision that if red only has one team then we would have canceled their event. You can’t be the best of red if you don’t compete against anyone. You can’t win by default.

We had the idea to post the rules early but luckily I didn’t do that. By the time the signups closed we only had one team. Then 3 then 2. These things always make it hard to post things in advance because things always change.

Rules get tweaked sometimes. I stand by the decisions I made during the event otherwise there wouldn’t have been one.

A huge amount of effort went into these events and a ton of planning. Sometimes things happens that you can’t plan for and you have to adjust.

I’m done talking about this though because I have to prep for blues event and then greens. I am happy that red will be represented in the finals. I was really bummed when only one team signed up.

To answer your last question. Those rules were taken directly from the live event. I’m not sure why.
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Old 02-08-2023, 05:18 AM
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We had made the decision that if red only has one team then we would have canceled their event. You can’t be the best of red if you don’t compete against anyone. You can’t win by default.

We had the idea to post the rules early but luckily I didn’t do that. By the time the signups closed we only had one team. Then 3 then 2. These things always make it hard to post things in advance because things always change.

Rules get tweaked sometimes. I stand by the decisions I made during the event otherwise there wouldn’t have been one.

A huge amount of effort went into these events and a ton of planning. Sometimes things happens that you can’t plan for and you have to adjust.

I’m done talking about this though because I have to prep for blues event and then greens. I am happy that red will be represented in the finals. I was really bummed when only one team signed up.

To answer your last question. Those rules were taken directly from the live event. I’m not sure why.
can only imagine the work you have put into this and thankful we had the chance to have an event on Red given how long its been since the last one. looking forward to the Blue and Green events!
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:09 PM
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We had made the decision that if red only has one team then we would have canceled their event. You can’t be the best of red if you don’t compete against anyone. You can’t win by default.

We had the idea to post the rules early but luckily I didn’t do that. By the time the signups closed we only had one team. Then 3 then 2. These things always make it hard to post things in advance because things always change.

Rules get tweaked sometimes. I stand by the decisions I made during the event otherwise there wouldn’t have been one.

A huge amount of effort went into these events and a ton of planning. Sometimes things happens that you can’t plan for and you have to adjust.

I’m done talking about this though because I have to prep for blues event and then greens. I am happy that red will be represented in the finals. I was really bummed when only one team signed up.

To answer your last question. Those rules were taken directly from the live event. I’m not sure why.
sorry but i just feel you're wrong.

IMO, if someone drops out of the tournament, their enemy should auto advance, not switch the rules around..(btw if 5 teams total someone would have to auto advance anyway.)

same thing goes for changing rules on the fly, same thing goes for planning.

again, you say planning wasnt a problem but yet u say you didnt post the rules early (you did, even the ringer rule which was last added was a couple days before hand)

sign ups were like 24hrs? 48hrs before? not even?

if a huge effort went into these im super underwhelmed, if thats the case i can plan and host some (im not guilded and could care less who wins) events and not do any of that if this is the case.

feels like excuses for lack of planning and huge oversight just how bad changing the rules right before or mid event is.....

you want to have a test of tactics, have a test of tactics....but dont call this one and dont overlook how bad doing that stuff actually is (rule changing)

(not trying to be a dk, but if ur job is to put something put a number on it and you put a letter, im not going to tell you good job just because.

(again im not mad at you, and im thankful for something over nothing, but dont overlook the bad points of the something just because you made it, be better, accept criticism without it being personal)
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Old 02-09-2023, 03:14 PM
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sorry but i just feel you're wrong.

IMO, if someone drops out of the tournament, their enemy should auto advance, not switch the rules around..(btw if 5 teams total someone would have to auto advance anyway.)

same thing goes for changing rules on the fly, same thing goes for planning.

again, you say planning wasnt a problem but yet u say you didnt post the rules early (you did, even the ringer rule which was last added was a couple days before hand)

sign ups were like 24hrs? 48hrs before? not even?

if a huge effort went into these im super underwhelmed, if thats the case i can plan and host some (im not guilded and could care less who wins) events and not do any of that if this is the case.

feels like excuses for lack of planning and huge oversight just how bad changing the rules right before or mid event is.....

you want to have a test of tactics, have a test of tactics....but dont call this one and dont overlook how bad doing that stuff actually is (rule changing)

(not trying to be a dk, but if ur job is to put something put a number on it and you put a letter, im not going to tell you good job just because.

(again im not mad at you, and im thankful for something over nothing, but dont overlook the bad points of the something just because you made it, be better, accept criticism without it being personal)
While healthy criticism is appreciated, the manner in which it is given is of the utmost importance. There has been much debate and updates with our GM Events due to a variety of reasons. How you're choosing to address your thoughts about changes, while heart-felt, is becoming abrasive. If there are additional updates to this event, an announcement will be made. As always, attending the event is at your discretion especially if not in agreement with how we choose to execute our events.
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Old 02-09-2023, 03:31 PM
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While healthy criticism is appreciated, the manner in which it is given is of the utmost importance. There has been much debate and updates with our GM Events due to a variety of reasons. How you're choosing to address your thoughts about changes, while heart-felt, is becoming abrasive. If there are additional updates to this event, an announcement will be made. As always, attending the event is at your discretion especially if not in agreement with how we choose to execute our events.
sorry if it seems that way, but even mentioned a few times that im not mad or hold anything against him...

but im curious which part was bad? is it because i said he is wrong and we have to be yes men?

or is it a point i made?
or did i somehow insult him?

if legitimate criticism is the only reason......

(btw hosting a concert then showing up and there being no music....isnt a good event.... a concert is about music, if you have no music its no a concert.......i shouldnt be censored just because its your friends concert, you should realize i can be thankful for an event while also saying that the event, as far as a concert is concerned, was a bad concert (aka no music)... esp when im telling you how you can fix the problem while not insulting you in the slightest....telling someone they are wrong isnt insulting, its showing them the better way (provided solutions given like i gave)

(no rule changing, proper planning time, and just fixing his lies like where he said he didnt post rules before hand yet the very beginning of this thread alone shows otherwise.....again you guys are taking it personal because i pointed out the faults with the event rather than see it as an opportunity to fix it and make it better.....instead you guys are calling it abrasive for some reason you havent shared yet)
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Old 02-09-2023, 03:42 PM
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sorry if it seems that way, but even mentioned a few times that im not mad or hold anything against him...

but im curious which part was bad? is it because i said he is wrong and we have to be yes men?

or is it a point i made?
or did i somehow insult him?

if legitimate criticism is the only reason......
I'm not going to elaborate on the instances where you have doubt about your way of communicating as that would not be a productive use of time and further clog this thread. If you have concerns, then now is your chance to compile them all in one reply. We will review your post and proceed accordingly. As Visceryn has answered most or all of your concerns, do not be surprised if no additional changes are made and the event moves forward.
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Old 02-09-2023, 03:49 PM
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I'm not going to elaborate on the instances where you have doubt about your way of communicating as that would not be a productive use of time and further clog this thread. If you have concerns, then now is your chance to compile them all in one reply. We will review your post and proceed accordingly. As Visceryn has answered most or all of your concerns, do not be surprised if no additional changes are made and the event moves forward.
thats not shady at all, im being abrasive but you dont know where....

so pointing out where they're wrong/bringing it up at all is the problem i can only assume....
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