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Old 08-08-2011, 12:47 PM
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It is a logical fallacy that because your database was hacked and because a TR member forwarded on an exploit you talked about (even in a "don't do this" way) on your member forums that a TR member hacked your database. We have had former/disgruntled TMO / DA in our app pool consistently for a solid 8 months, including apps received as recently as this morning. People offer us, unsolicited, a ridiculous amount of information about what goes on in your guild.

I am sorry you got hacked. I don't know jack and/or crap about database security, but it seems pretty out of line to point the finger without any actual evidence when this server is a cesspool of people who know entirely too much about the internet. We're not the only people your guild's leadership has pissed off.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:51 PM
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The fact that anyone, TR or not, would get so obsessive over an emulated video game as to illegally hack into a guilds' forums is pretty fucking sad.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:57 PM
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Even if this information was provided by someone outside your guild as you say, wouldn't the ethical choice be to inform this other guild about who provided this information, and let them know that you were informing GMs?
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:26 PM
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I don't know jack and/or crap about database security
Then shut up.


Guild in game spies is one things, having a member give u forum access or read you our forums is one thing. Having access to the admin control panel is completely another.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:40 PM
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Personal information including RL pics, discussions of where people live, and passwords to mail accounts and p99 accounts.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:44 PM
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Personal information including RL pics, discussions of where people live, and passwords to mail accounts and p99 accounts.
Yeah, of your guildies. No one else gives a shit nor needs to. Of course, if I were a member of TMO I'd be reconsidering how much information I'd want to share, since it evidently won't be very secure.

Honestly, is this thread anything more than innuendo intended to make TR look bad before it came out that you had exploits posted on your forums? Because as an unbiased observer I just don't see any other reason to bring this to the server's attention in this manner.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:46 PM
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Yeah, of your guildies. No one else gives a shit nor needs to. Of course, if I were a member of TMO I'd be reconsidering how much information I'd want to share, since it evidently won't be very secure.

Honestly, is this thread anything more than innuendo intended to make TR look bad before it came out that you had exploits posted on your forums? Because as an unbiased observer I just don't see any other reason to bring this to the server's attention in this manner.
It's definitely entertaining if nothing else.


There's not a reason not to make it public knowledge; but yeah, one of the possible realities here is pre-emptive damage control.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:52 PM
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I would say this point is legit.

Also, as our Swedish friend pointed out, everything happening behind the scenes = bad.

And this is why people read the forums, because they want to know what's going on. Yeah, its guild drama, but everyone continues to open the thread...
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:54 PM
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I would say this point is legit.

Also, as our Swedish friend pointed out, everything happening behind the scenes = bad.

And this is why people read the forums, because they want to know what's going on. Yeah, its guild drama, but everyone continues to open the thread...
Ya its guild drama, but accounts getting stolen hacked, passwords compromised, etc is rl drama
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:56 PM
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Ya its guild drama, but accounts getting stolen hacked, passwords compromised, etc is rl drama
My first 2 points agreed with you.

My 3rd point was an IMO
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