JBB, is it really that good?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, I'm not getting pushed a lot, but it's more annoying than any stuns I see. I can go many fights without a single stun landing but I'm also one of the "AC is King" kind of players. My real point here is that too many people really oversell the importance of FSI at 60. It's probably a little more useful than an extra stack of food on a halfling as they eat more, but not quite as useful as Dwarf barrel roll. Somewhere in between.

I think the misconception here is you assume we are "overselling it". I have said it many times that no racial is necessary when you have Torpor.

I simply want to let people know which racial is best with Torpor if you care about min maxing. "Better" doesn't mean it is leagues ahead. It just means better.

Torpor just gives you too much regeneration for racial regeneration to matter much anymore. A Shaman with Fungi Staff, Fungi Tunic, and Torpor is Regenerating at 334 (Ogre) or 342 (Troll). The difference between the two is 2.3%. Getting 2.3% more HP per hour means saving 1.4 minutes on average per hour regenerating HP. This is assuming you are never at max HP, so the reality is less.

Before Torpor it is a 23% increase, which is pretty big when you are chain killing mobs for XP.

[FickleFiend]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the misconception here is you assume we are "overselling it". I have said it many times that no racial is necessary when you have Torpor.

I simply want to let people know which racial is best with Torpor if you care about min maxing. "Better" doesn't mean it is leagues ahead. It just means better.

Torpor just gives you too much regeneration for racial regeneration to matter much anymore. A Shaman with Fungi Staff, Fungi Tunic, and Torpor is Regenerating at 334 (Ogre) or 342 (Troll). The difference between the two is 2.3%. Getting 2.3% more HP per hour means saving 1.4 minutes on average per hour regenerating HP. This is assuming you are never at max HP, so the reality is less.

Before Torpor it is a 23% increase, which is pretty big when you are chain killing mobs for XP.

No misconceptions from me, it's thread after thread, year after year you come into any conversation about Shaman and derail it into an FSI is the bestest thing. Not even making this up. Now you're throwing out stats on Regen which neither the OP nor I even mentioned just to prove your point. I do believe this was a question about the JBB, not FSI, not Regen, not Iksar scales or Barb hairy hats.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No misconceptions from me, it's thread after thread, year after year you come into any conversation about Shaman and derail it into an FSI is the bestest thing. Not even making this up. Now you're throwing out stats on Regen which neither the OP nor I even mentioned just to prove your point. I do believe this was a question about the JBB, not FSI, not Regen, not Iksar scales or Barb hairy hats.

You do realize that I didn't start the FSI conversation here, right?

ya.dingus derailed the thread by talking about it. I am simply responding to him so people don't get wrong information.

Please show me a thread where I actually just randomly started talking about FSI without cause.

[FickleFiend]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I am simply responding to him so people don't get wrong information.
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This right here is the problem. You seem to think you're the be all end all for information in this game on this class. It's all a little aspy in how vehement you get on being right and everyone else being wrong and baiting people into discussing it so you can prove they're wrong 'cause you say so. In any thread it pops up, you're there taking over.

If that's what you need to validate your existence then more power to you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This right here is the problem. You seem to think you're the be all end all for information in this game on this class. It's all a little aspy in how vehement you get on being right and everyone else being wrong and baiting people into discussing it so you can prove they're wrong 'cause you say so. In any thread it pops up, you're there taking over.

If that's what you need to validate your existence then more power to you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not at all. I don't care about being right or wrong. I have been proven wrong plenty of times on these forums. I just want to help new players who can easily be manipulated by bad information.

The problem is people like yourself think they are right, and get angry when someone says something they don't agree with. If you were actually concerned about "derailing a thread", you would be going after ya.dingus for derailing it.

If everybody just ignored someone who was off-topic in a thread, it would be very easy for people to just post nonsense in every thread to try and spread bad information. People who are new to the game won't be able to tell the difference between the truth and a falsehood.

So I have a choice: go off-topic to refute the bad information, or ignore it and let people be misled. I prefer the former, you seem to prefer the latter.

[FickleFiend]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not at all. I don't care about being right or wrong. I have been proven wrong plenty of times on these forums. I just want to help new players who can easily be manipulated by bad information.

The problem is people like yourself think they are right, and get angry when someone says something they don't agree with. If you were actually concerned about "derailing a thread", you would be going after ya.dingus for derailing it.

If everybody just ignored someone who was off-topic in a thread, it would be very easy for people to just post nonsense in every thread to try and spread bad information. People who are new to the game won't be able to tell the difference between the truth and a falsehood.

So I have a choice: go off-topic to refute the bad information, or ignore it and let people be misled. I prefer the former, you seem to prefer the latter.

Deflect deflect, rinse repeat, carry on. I'm right, you're wrong but mostly you're wrong because you called me wrong and now I'll tell you how wrong you are. I'm taking my ball and going home. /DeathMilkySimQuest

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Deflect deflect, rinse repeat, carry on. I'm right, you're wrong but mostly you're wrong because you called me wrong and now I'll tell you how wrong you are. I'm taking my ball and going home. /DeathMilkySimQuest

The pattern here is you make a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, and then post nonsense when you get called out on it. I am not sure who you think you are convincing this way.