JBB, is it really that good?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does FSI prevent push interrupts? Can't stand Ogre so honestly don't know.

No, FSI is only relevant when mobs bash you. Bash has 3 components:
1. Damage
2. Chance to interrupt spell
3. Chance to Stun (100% chance to interrupt spell)

FSI removes the chance to stun. This means you always have a chance to finish casting your spells when you get bashed, you never have to worry about the stun (auto interrupt). This is if you are facing the target. If they hit you from behind, you can still be stunned.

[FickleFiend]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, FSI is only relevant when mobs bash you. Bash has 3 components:
1. Damage
2. Chance to interrupt spell
3. Chance to Stun (100% chance to interrupt spell)

FSI removes the chance to stun. This means you always have a chance to finish casting your spells when you get bashed, you never have to worry about the stun (auto interrupt). This is if you are facing the target. If they hit you from behind, you can still be stunned.

I know that part of it but was wondering if there's some magic I'm missing. I have a 60 Troll Shm and honestly the stuns aren't really a big thing. It's the push I find more annoying. So stand in corner I guess.

Cheers!

Edit... And to stay on topic, JBB is a sweet toy, along the lines of the Lumi stick for Druid. Great tool, but hardly necessary. Just slow down and enjoy the experience of leveling!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know that part of it but was wondering if there's some magic I'm missing. I have a 60 Troll Shm and honestly the stuns aren't really a big thing. It's the push I find more annoying. So stand in corner I guess.

Cheers!

Push shouldn't be an issue if you are slowing the mob. As a 60 Shaman I am not sure what situations you are getting into where you are getting pushed enough to be interrupted.

When fighting single mobs you getting pushed very little when they are slowed.

When fighting multiple mobs, you are rooting, not face tanking multiple mobs.

Fighting in water is the only thing I can think of, but that is always more difficult as a caster.

[FickleFiend]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Push shouldn't be an issue if you are slowing the mob. As a 60 Shaman I am not sure what situations you are getting into where you are getting pushed enough to be interrupted.

When fighting single mobs you getting pushed very little when they are slowed.

When fighting multiple mobs, you are rooting, not face tanking multiple mobs.

Fighting in water is the only thing I can think of, but that is always more difficult as a caster.

You're right, I'm not getting pushed a lot, but it's more annoying than any stuns I see. I can go many fights without a single stun landing but I'm also one of the "AC is King" kind of players. My real point here is that too many people really oversell the importance of FSI at 60. It's probably a little more useful than an extra stack of food on a halfling as they eat more, but not quite as useful as Dwarf barrel roll. Somewhere in between.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, I'm not getting pushed a lot, but it's more annoying than any stuns I see. I can go many fights without a single stun landing but I'm also one of the "AC is King" kind of players. My real point here is that too many people really oversell the importance of FSI at 60. It's probably a little more useful than an extra stack of food on a halfling as they eat more, but not quite as useful as Dwarf barrel roll. Somewhere in between.

I think the misconception here is you assume we are "overselling it". I have said it many times that no racial is necessary when you have Torpor.

I simply want to let people know which racial is best with Torpor if you care about min maxing. "Better" doesn't mean it is leagues ahead. It just means better.

Torpor just gives you too much regeneration for racial regeneration to matter much anymore. A Shaman with Fungi Staff, Fungi Tunic, and Torpor is Regenerating at 334 (Ogre) or 342 (Troll). The difference between the two is 2.3%. Getting 2.3% more HP per hour means saving 1.4 minutes on average per hour regenerating HP. This is assuming you are never at max HP, so the reality is less.

Before Torpor it is a 23% increase, which is pretty big when you are chain killing mobs for XP.

[FickleFiend]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the misconception here is you assume we are "overselling it". I have said it many times that no racial is necessary when you have Torpor.

I simply want to let people know which racial is best with Torpor if you care about min maxing. "Better" doesn't mean it is leagues ahead. It just means better.

Torpor just gives you too much regeneration for racial regeneration to matter much anymore. A Shaman with Fungi Staff, Fungi Tunic, and Torpor is Regenerating at 334 (Ogre) or 342 (Troll). The difference between the two is 2.3%. Getting 2.3% more HP per hour means saving 1.4 minutes on average per hour regenerating HP. This is assuming you are never at max HP, so the reality is less.

Before Torpor it is a 23% increase, which is pretty big when you are chain killing mobs for XP.

No misconceptions from me, it's thread after thread, year after year you come into any conversation about Shaman and derail it into an FSI is the bestest thing. Not even making this up. Now you're throwing out stats on Regen which neither the OP nor I even mentioned just to prove your point. I do believe this was a question about the JBB, not FSI, not Regen, not Iksar scales or Barb hairy hats.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by FickleFiend [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No misconceptions from me, it's thread after thread, year after year you come into any conversation about Shaman and derail it into an FSI is the bestest thing. Not even making this up. Now you're throwing out stats on Regen which neither the OP nor I even mentioned just to prove your point. I do believe this was a question about the JBB, not FSI, not Regen, not Iksar scales or Barb hairy hats.

You do realize that I didn't start the FSI conversation here, right?

ya.dingus derailed the thread by talking about it. I am simply responding to him so people don't get wrong information.

Please show me a thread where I actually just randomly started talking about FSI without cause.