Twitter Files - Russians Were Helping the Dems lol

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are from Google, not Russia.

I guess it's from this website, also Not Russia.

any such data began it's life at a PR meeting somewhere in the Kremlin, then it was placed in such a location or outlet that would make it appear to be legit.

the KGB (now called FSB) was leaps and bounds ahead of the CIA or MI6 during the cold war, so its not difficult to believe they are still on top of their game, especially given that the Russian head of state is an old school KGB guy.

too many people think that because the russians lack mcdonalds starbucks and endless neon signage, that they haven't kept up with the things that they think are important.

those same people are going to point to the obviously failed invasion of ukraine and think that the russians don't have jack shit for a military, while that definitely appears to be the case at current, the russian military has yet to field their best of the best equipment at large scale.

So i figure that if their statements about their cutting edge military gear are even half true, then they are reserving this equipment for the event they have to actually go fight a real military.

They are gonna keep on getting ass blasted by western weapons in Ukraine, because they don't have to bring the best of the best to bear to accomplish whatever they think their goal in ukraine is.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

any such data began it's life at a PR meeting somewhere in the Kremlin, then it was placed in such a location or outlet that would make it appear to be legit.

the KGB (now called FSB) was leaps and bounds ahead of the CIA or MI6 during the cold war, so its not difficult to believe they are still on top of their game, especially given that the Russian head of state is an old school KGB guy.

too many people think that because the russians lack mcdonalds starbucks and endless neon signage, that they haven't kept up with the things that they think are important.

those same people are going to point to the obviously failed invasion of ukraine and think that the russians don't have jack shit for a military, while that definitely appears to be the case at current, the russian military has yet to field their best of the best equipment at large scale.

So i figure that if their statements about their cutting edge military gear are even half true, then they are reserving this equipment for the event they have to actually go fight a real military.

They are gonna keep on getting ass blasted by western weapons in Ukraine, because they don't have to bring the best of the best to bear to accomplish whatever they think their goal in ukraine is.

I'm with you there, Holy Russia has brought Ukraine down with absolute garbage forces. Their garbage just happens to be slightly better than Ukrainian garbage.

Even then their losses are incredibly exaggerated in the West by our only sourcing being Ukrainian state news (Kyiv "Independent")

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm with you there, Holy Russia has brought Ukraine down with absolute garbage forces.

Even then their losses are incredibly exaggerated in the West by our only sourcing being Ukrainian state news (Kyiv "Independent")

M16 said that russian losses are about 100k people as of the new year. They probably aren't gonna be far off. Forgetting where I read it, iirc the ukrainians have lost 60k people.

the russian military doesn't value human life the like the western world does, a life lost is the same as a bullet fired, it was used for a purpose, and can be replaced.

so measuring russia's performance in ukraine in terms of lives lost, isn't exactly the best metric, nor is measuring the amount of equipment lost, because russia has absolutely shitloads of tanks, BMPs, artillery pieces etc. When they have to give ground, they leave that junk behind because there is more coming, at least thats the plan, everyone says that their logistics are beyond garbage, but again, there is the fog of war, and on top of that, we're viewing the conflict through heavily censored media sources.

Im set in my earlier statement, about what the geo-political lines will look like when the dust settles. This is by all accounts a modern war, but its also one that isn't being fought with the conventions that we in the west expect to see in a modern war.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

M16 said that russian losses are about 100k people as of the new year. They probably aren't gonna be far off. Forgetting where I read it, iirc the ukrainians have lost 60k people.

the russian military doesn't value human life the like the western world does, a life lost is the same as a bullet fired, it was used for a purpose, and can be replaced.

so measuring russia's performance in ukraine in terms of lives lost, isn't exactly the best metric, nor is measuring the amount of equipment lost, because russia has absolutely shitloads of tanks, BMPs, artillery pieces etc. When they have to give ground, they leave that junk behind because there is more coming, at least thats the plan, everyone says that their logistics are beyond garbage, but again, there is the fog of war, and on top of that, we're viewing the conflict through heavily censored media sources.

Im set in my earlier statement, about what the geo-political lines will look like when the dust settles. This is by all accounts a modern war, but its also one that isn't being fought with the conventions that we in the west expect to see in a modern war.

Who/what is M16?

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who/what is M16?

oops

it's MI-6

British Intelligence, like the CIA but in England.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oops

it's MI-6

British Intelligence, like the CIA but in England.

100k is just complete bullshit

200k is Tromp bullshit

(I couldn't find a German source that didn't suck. Starkind? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100k is just complete bullshit

200k is Tromp bullshit

(I couldn't find a German source that didn't suck. Starkind? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

Botten is a Kraut, maybe he knows some accurate source. Deutsch Welle is a decent german news agency.

100k dead russians after a year fighting this conflict isn't that hard to believe if you know russian military ground force tactics. In their mind, its all about overwhelming numbers and artillery saturation.

They haven't had a great time with either of these tactics so far though. in the U.S. "reserve troops" means like, folks you could call upon should active duty troops need more. In Russia that term means something closer to the troops you can count on when all else fails.

Gotta consider who is being sent to die in ukraine. A few hundred thousand of inexperienced soldiers who were just unlucky enough to be enlisted when Putin got antsy, as well as The Wagner Group (russian mercenary corporation) has basically cleaned out all the mental hospitals and the prisons for more cannon fodder.

This isn't even considering the 300k called up in the "partial mobilization" from sept 2022 (intel sources say this its closer to 5-600k)

it's right out of the old Soviet ground war play book, order a battalion into enemy territory, if they get obliterated, then use that knowledge of enemy positions and saturate the area with artillery.

Captured russian prisoners (i mean actual guy who were in russian prison, but took the deal to go fight in ukraine) are saying that the russian army has entire battalions whos job it is to execute anyone who won't advance into enemy fire. This too is straight out of the old Soviet military playbook. Sometimes, if a unit is underperforming or outright refuses to go on suicide missions, then they just execute the entire unit AND commanding officers up the chain.

Taking all of this into account, I can believe that 100k russians have died, more than certainly the majority died at the business end of a ukrainian weapon, but I'm also sure that thousands have been executed by their own comrades, its how the Russians fight wars, they just haven't done anything on a large scale since WW2, so most people forgot how utterly cold and brutal they are.