What's the point of playing Ranger?

[Crepido]

There's a reason rangers got huge buffs in luclin and PoP, finally boosting their archery. Because up til then they are bad warriors or bad rogues. WS sure ! might as well have that player level a warrior and use a riposte discipline or defense and live just as long if not longer no ?

If you're arguing a BIS ranger can do this or that, what about him being a different class with BIS stuff ? couldn't he be a monk and do the same ?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Crepido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a reason rangers got huge buffs in luclin and PoP, finally boosting their archery. Because up til then they are bad warriors or bad rogues. WS sure ! might as well have that player level a warrior and use a riposte discipline or defense and live just as long if not longer no ?

If you're arguing a BIS ranger can do this or that, what about him being a different class with BIS stuff ? couldn't he be a monk and do the same ?

A ranger can build build aggro quicker with flame lick than almost any other class and their parry disc lasts 2.5 times longer than a warrior or monk. Having a 60 warrior blow their disc CD for 9 seconds of riposte is stupid. Monks frequently bump but it’s easier with rooted targets since they just have to be in range. Anything that moves will chase aggro rank so they would need to dump an entire scepter of the forlorn into the target (equiv to a couple flamelicks).

My argument is a 60 ranger with no gear at all can bump better than any other class every 72 minutes. If you never lose a MT that’s great, you don’t need a bump. A ranger still provides a lot of attack power to a raid. Some would argue you only need one ranger to get this benefit but often with a large guild even one 60 ranger in attendance is a coin flip.

Plus this whole thread assumes someone only had one class they main. It’s not 1999 anymore. I play a ranger for when it’s in the area or can provide a real benefit. When not, I play one of my other four 60’s or a raid bot.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Crepido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a reason rangers got huge buffs in luclin and PoP, finally boosting their archery.

So on P99, Rangers are permanently bugged. They can't and never will be able to use a bow properly. On P99, they will always be incomplete and broken.

Being bugged/broken is classic?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So on P99, Rangers are permanently bugged. They can't and never will be able to use a bow properly. On P99, they will always be incomplete and broken.

Being bugged/broken is classic?

Please explain what you mean and I can explain how you are wrong.

Yea no AM3 or EQ AA's. We know this.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please explain what you mean and I can explain how you are wrong.

Okay, try and keep up. I will talk S L O W L Y.

1. Rangers being outdoor hunters are supposed to be experts with bows that's why their inventory screen has a bow and quiver graphic. With me so far?

2. On P99, Rangers aren't experts with bows and they never will be so a Ranger on P99 is like a Rogue without BS.

Explain how I'm wrong.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, try and keep up. I will talk S L O W L Y.

1. Rangers being outdoor hunters are supposed to be experts with bows that's why their inventory screen has a bow and quiver graphic. With me so far?
(this isnt a point or a question...sure, I guess)

2. On P99, Rangers aren't experts with bows and they never will be so a Ranger on P99 is like a Rogue without BS.
(this is vague and doesnt advance your point. I've killed Lucan 30 times with my bow solo, a rogue cant.)

Explain how I'm wrong.

I've played a ranger here for a decade. I'm trying to help.
Is your point bow damage doesnt out dps rogues? If so, congrats.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is your point bow damage doesnt out dps rogues? If so, congrats.

No, my point is that a Ranger on P99 isn't a Ranger.

Just like if a Rogue didn't have BS he wouldn't be a Rogue.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, my point is that a Ranger on P99 isn't a Ranger.

Just like if a Rogue didn't have BS he wouldn't be a Rogue.

Good point. Why focus on facts when you can rely on lore and "your gut".

I'm really thinking you shouldnt play a ranger. It's an uphill battle to convince you they can be good and frankly we have enough bad ones as-is.


PS: Done with arrows...

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, my point is that a Ranger on P99 isn't a Ranger.

Just like if a Rogue didn't have BS he wouldn't be a Rogue.

Is this the bullshit ‘rangers are rangers, why aren’t they good at range’?

The ‘range’ in ranger refers to them journeying far and wide, not them shooting bows.

[mycoolrausch]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So on P99, Rangers are permanently bugged. They can't and never will be able to use a bow properly. On P99, they will always be incomplete and broken.

Being bugged/broken is classic?

Yes. Rangers are not unique in this regard. Wizards in luclin get a higher effective casting level so their nukes actually land, efficient nukes that aren't target based banes, spell crits, reduced threat, and other assorted massive buffs that turn them into an actual real class. Druids get actual heals. Etc.

P99 is the era of monks/chanters/shamans/necros.

The broken and unbalanced classes makes the game interesting. You can swap between mowing down content on a walking god (a geared velious monk) and turning basic encounters into an interesting and fun challenge on something sub optimal (druid).