Miscellaneous: patch timeline:

[Feachie]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you suggesting that since pvp kills yielded no mana, that pve should yield mana? Need specifics, but this patch doesn't say that.

patch doesn't say it but it implies that a death by an npc is treated differently.

[Rais]

The no mana from pvp duels was caused by a guy named Raistin flying though levels. He had a stern talking to from some GMs about it.

Lady D rocked tho!

NPC deaths was different and not treated as duel deaths. On here tho as a caster, you don't respawn with full mana.

[kalzin]

I do appologize, apparently it was 2hs, piercing, and landed finally on 1hs... I'll post the db reference but im pretty sure gordon may be correct.

Official_EverQuest_Forums [ 11:14 AM EDT ] - Ogamok
Gordon had the following to say here on the Official Everquest Message Boards


What we *really* need is a "polearm" skill. We really don't like the idea of paladins wielding daggers or rapiers, but really wouldn't have a problem with them using lances and polearms. Unfortunately, new skills aren't technically feasible at this time.

In any case, the change from 2HS to piercing was a mistake, and it's been switched to 1HS to go live with the next patch.

-Gordon

pulled from a meta-search using LawTSI's LAW50 EDD function and
http://web.archive.org/web/200006220...assCookie=true

[kalzin]

well this isn't much but heres the db entries...
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[Bardalicious]

It certainly would appear those database entries indicate 3 separate changes. Starting as 2A (2-h slash?), going to 1C (1-h pierce?) then finally 1A (1-h slash?).

[kalzin]

I believe that to be the case, however the "erroneous change" is what has me confused... i see the statement saying it was a mistake to change it from
2hs to pierce ( i believe this was on the test server). But it could have very-well been a pierceing weapon in the game... if so tho wouldn't it be 2h piercing... what was the Messenger of the Queen? I feel that the items may had gotten switched on the test server and then corrected.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by kalzin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe that to be the case, however the "erroneous change" is what has me confused... i see the statement saying it was a mistake to change it from
2hs to pierce ( i believe this was on the test server). But it could have very-well been a pierceing weapon in the game... if so tho wouldn't it be 2h piercing... what was the Messenger of the Queen? I feel that the items may had gotten switched on the test server and then corrected.

Wurmslayer was most certainly never 2hp. Were there even 2hp weapons in the game prior to Velious? Gordon's post about needing a "polearm" skill, aka 2 handed piercing, would indicate that it hadn't existed at that point.

As for the erroneous change what he is saying is that it definitely originated as a 2hs weapon and was accidentally changed to 1 handed piercing instead of 1 handed slashing as they had intended. The 1 handed slash change was implemented pending the next patch. The only thing that can really be argued is whether it was ever a piercing weapon on Live before it went from 2-hs to 1-hs.