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Old 03-29-2010, 10:34 AM
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I'm very happy that you guys managed to down her, just unhappy as to how you got to attempt her.
I knew this would come up sooner or later, so I'll address it without flaming or trolling.

The truth is, we have been trying to race you guys (All guilds really, but in this case IB in particular) for Vox/Naggy and gods. We have trackers and alts camped at spawns like I'd assume most guilds do. The problem was, me playing my main and logging over to check my tracker alt every hour or half hour was not good enough. IB, along with other guilds too, have trackers and groups camped at the raid spawn 24/7. These guilds know when dragons and gods spawn litterally the second they spawn, and are dead within 30 minutes or so.

We were not able/willing to compete with this.

So instead, we decided after a good Hate clear that we would head to Perma and camp everyone's main there so we could all log in once we found out Vox had spawned. That's when we realized IB saw us doing this, and came to Perma with their own force. We then decided we will suck it up and and win this race to Vox. We had never killed her before, and we were there before IB, so we weren't going to give it away. Last week, we had the first attempt on Draco and when we engaged, the zone lagged and we all died without getting a fair shot. Call it bitter, but we were unhappy and didn't want to lose out on our chance to kill another boss.

I'm the last person that wants to sit around and camp a raid boss that might spawn 3 days from now. I (we) did it this time as an exception because we really, really wanted to kill her. That's all.

Feel free to dispute or flame this post, I'm happy to address any issues anyone has with how Divinity does it's thing. Just know this is not something we are planning on doing for every boss. I considered this very much the exception and not the rule.
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:56 AM
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I knew this would come up sooner or later, so I'll address it with flaming or trolling.

The truth is, we have been trying to race you guys (All guilds really, but in this case IB in particular) for Vox/Naggy and gods. We have trackers and alts camped at spawns like I'd assume most guilds do. The problem was, me playing my main and logging over to check my tracker alt every hour or half hour was not good enough. IB, along with other guilds too, have trackers and groups camped at the raid spawn 24/7. These guilds know when dragons and gods spawn litterally the second they spawn, and are dead within 30 minutes or so.

We were not able/willing to compete with this.

So instead, we decided after a good Hate clear that we would head to Perma and camp everyone's main there so we could all log in once we found out Vox had spawned. That's when we realized IB saw us doing this, and came to Perma with their own force. We then decided we will suck it up and and win this race to Vox. We had never killed her before, and we were there before IB, so we weren't going to give it away. Last week, we has the first attempt on Draco and when we engaged, the zone lagged and we all died without getting a fair shot. Call it bitter, but we were unhappy and didn't want to lose out on our chance to kill another boss.

I'm the last person that wants to sit around and camp a raid boss that might spawn 3 days from now. I (we) did it this time as an exception because we really, really wanted to kill her. That's all.

Feel free to dispute or flame this post, I'm happy to address any issues anyone has with how Divinity does it's thing. Just know this is not something we are planning on doing for every boss. I considered this very much the exception and not the rule.
Trimm, once again you are the voice of reason. I now have a better understanding on this situation. I don't have anything against Divinity, I apologize if I sounded petty. Fact is though this really isn't about Div but the whole issue of camping and that's all I was trying to bring out.

As for you chicanery, the post was made to get a legitimate response for something that I consider to be an important issue. I'll refrain myself from doling out the same childish cheap shots and hopefully we can discuss the bigger picture.
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:15 AM
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Trimm, once again you are the voice of reason. I now have a better understanding on this situation. I don't have anything against Divinity, I apologize if I sounded petty. Fact is though this really isn't about Div but the whole issue of camping and that's all I was trying to bring out.

As for you chicanery, the post was made to get a legitimate response for something that I consider to be an important issue. I'll refrain myself from doling out the same childish cheap shots and hopefully we can discuss the bigger picture.
It's cool dude, I just thought it was sort of hypocritical when it was IB that was camped in Perma for a much longer period of time than us last time she spawned. The difference being that we never killed before last night, and you guys have killed her... well let's just say a bunch of times.

Basically it's like Trimm said though. We just want a chance to hit all the content, right? We all have other things to do and nobody is planning on spending 3 days a week in a dragon lair staring at the walls. It was a Sunday afternoon, fun guild chat and good timing. I highly doubt we would still have had 15 in zone an hour later had she not spawned when she did; there were already a few people planning on logging off for the night.
And you guys would have had yet another Vox kill.

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Old 03-29-2010, 12:34 PM
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It was a Sunday afternoon, fun guild chat and good timing.
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...and good timing.

Linux parsing counting boxes, obviously. There is no other unreasonable explanation!
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:44 PM
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Wow.. just read all the posts here since last night. What Trimm said about people moving their mains from Hate to Perma after the raid is true. Our original plan was to have people camp their mains so it would be faster when she popped. Once we saw that IB's numbers were growing as ours were, we decided we would stick around and try to hold out for the dragon. Believe me we never planned to sit with a raid force til she spawned, it just happened in response to how things went.

I can promise you that we didnt keep people from being in the screenshot. Hell Divinity didnt even take that screenshot, Abacab did. Is he in on the conspiracy too Clayton? If people want to call us a zerg guild do you honestly think that means anything? If having 38 people there to have fun killing a dragon and only losing a couple chanters makes us a zerg guild then so be it. Clayton if you need to be impressed by fewer people downing Vox go solo her on live with an 85. Divinity didnt do all we could to kill Vox just to impress any of you, we killed her for the fun of it. We are playing a game here people.. you are supposed to have fun, thats the whole point. Yes I know there are going to be disagreements and drama is going to happen no matter what.. but seriously, dont forget to have fun playing eq or find that fun elsewhere.

Clayton, first who the hell are you? Are you the forums police? Oh noes, we must discover how there is a crime here because too many people had fun and Clayton weren't one of them. Dude, go push some kid off his bike... see if that makes you feel any better.

I personally love project 99, the people who made it and keep it running, a TON of the people who play on it and the whole idea of revisiting something I enjoyed 10 years ago. Yeah the drama I didnt miss but the fun of having a group of friends do something together is to me, the point of an MMO. Obviously guilds are going to have issues with each other from time to time.. but when people try to create huge drama out of normal issues you need to know that you arent helping, you are making things worse. Maybe some people dont understand this and feel everything they have issue with needs to be brought to the worlds attention... maybe some people needed more hugs from their mom.

Play the game, enjoy it the best you can. If thats impossible dont waste your time with it.. find something you can enjoy.
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:53 PM
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you're a zerg daydrem admit it. you and trimm need to seriously get a life
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Old 03-29-2010, 01:53 PM
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OMG J0EK
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:23 PM
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Linux parsing counting boxes, obviously. There is no other unreasonable explanation!
Pretty sure the Devs have said it is not possible to discover the spawn time for mobs using any 3rd party software. If it is possible I am sure that someone is doing it...
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Pretty sure the Devs have said it is not possible to discover the spawn time for mobs using any 3rd party software. If it is possible I am sure that someone is doing it...
Yeah - divinity obviously!

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It was a Sunday afternoon, fun guild chat and good timing.
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...and good timing.
I mean, come on! no other UNreasonable explanation!!!



maybe with that emphasis you'll get it this time =p
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Old 03-29-2010, 04:39 PM
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I understand you were being Ironic just find it funny you would mention packet sniffing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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