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Old 08-03-2011, 12:44 PM
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Yeah so the Euro guild can get 100% of the random ones that spawn during your raid times.

How about Trak stays how he is and we figure out a way to stop a giant petition fest every 3 days
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:21 AM
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Yeah so the Euro guild can get 100% of the random ones that spawn during your raid times.

How about Trak stays how he is and we figure out a way to stop a giant petition fest every 3 days
The only way to do that is either to merge all the raid guilds into one (boring) or have the spawns done static and people just do a mob rotation. Yea, a rotation has a lot more cons than pros for some people, but they work and cut out a LOT of the drama and makes raiding seem like less of a chore. Just think, you won't have to wake up at 3am to kill a dragon anymore!
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:24 AM
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The only way to do that is either to merge all the raid guilds into one (boring) or have the spawns done static and people just do a mob rotation. Yea, a rotation has a lot more cons than pros for some people, but they work and cut out a LOT of the drama and makes raiding seem like less of a chore. Just think, you won't have to wake up at 3am to kill a dragon anymore!
pride. that's their single problem. they have too much invested here to ever think of themselves as on an even keel as anyone else and need that fart-sniffing because every time loot drops they get to wank off to how awesome they are compared to everyone else. It's the attitude that has to change, because regardless of what the rules are there will always be assholes leading the charge and creating problems for the GMs and the rest of the community

Loke, the problem has been around since FTE hit, and both you and i know and SAW THIS COMING. Soon as both you and i saw "15 man sitting in aggro radius" we knew right away it wasn't fte but modified poopsock that will eventually lead to problems. the main problem is that shitty attitude you guys have that just won't go away because the rules may change but your approach to p99 simply won't.

Delete it all until they can prove they can get along with each other, then you can worry about changing the raid rules.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:33 AM
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Loke, the problem has been around since FTE hit, and both you and i know and SAW THIS COMING. Soon as both you and i saw "15 man sitting in aggro radius" we knew right away it wasn't fte but modified poopsock that will eventually lead to problems. the main problem is that shitty attitude you guys have that just won't go away because the rules may change but your approach to p99 simply won't.
I dont understand why a full variance isn't a solution. If no one knows when any of the mobs are going to spawn, there cannot be any poopsocking. 7 day spawns are put on a full 14 day variance so as to even out to an average of 1 per week. After a mob is killed it can spawn anywhere from instantly, to 14 days later (similar, but different time frame for 3 day mobs obviously). How would that not be a solution to the problem?

I understand there is a problem with the raid system, I just get frustrated when someone is trying to provide a solution and all we get is:"there isn't a problem!" or "why are you just bringing this up now?" or shit like that. a) there is a problem and b) we're bringing it up now because before now there wasn't a problem (i.e. the server staff didn't come to us asking us to find a solution to all the drama)

If you're not contributing to the solution, you're part of the problem, and need to gtfo. We need to stop bickering about who wants what and for what reasons - the simple fact is that there is a problem with the current raid system as deemed by Uthgaard, and any accusations as to certain guild's motivations right now are just a moot point that is completely counter-productive.

So yea...
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