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Old 10-13-2022, 06:37 PM
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Was this a defamation suit?

I think when people ask why there aren’t lawsuits for every other lie printed that resulted in some form of death or calamity, from researching it…to win a defamation suit the claim needs to be demonstrably false

So character attacks usually won’t qualify. If I printed “The police are racist” or even “[Insert_name] is racist”, it’s very difficult to prove that as false, since there is no “is not a racist” qualifier that can be used to demonstrate

But if I printed “[Insert_name] is not a real Doctor”, they could use their medical license to prove it as false. Conversely if I printed “[Insert_name] lied about their kid being a shooting victim” the person could provide a police report and death certificate

This is just a guess, but it basically gives politicians and the media free reign on character attacks, as long as they don’t attack a credential
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Old 10-13-2022, 06:43 PM
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Was this a defamation suit?

I think when people ask why there aren’t lawsuits for every other lie printed that resulted in some form of death or calamity, from researching it…to win a defamation suit the claim needs to be demonstrably false

So character attacks usually won’t qualify. If I printed “The police are racist” or even “[Insert_name] is racist”, it’s very difficult to prove that as false, since there is no “is not a racist” qualifier that can be used to demonstrate

But if I printed “[Insert_name] is not a real Doctor”, they could use their medical license to prove it as false. Conversely if I printed “[Insert_name] lied about their kid being a shooting victim” the person could provide a police report and death certificate

This is just a guess, but it basically gives politicians and the media free reign on character attacks, as long as they don’t attack a credential
No alex jones shot the kids. He even admitted it.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:15 PM
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Was this a defamation suit?

I think when people ask why there aren’t lawsuits for every other lie printed that resulted in some form of death or calamity, from researching it…to win a defamation suit the claim needs to be demonstrably false

So character attacks usually won’t qualify. If I printed “The police are racist” or even “[Insert_name] is racist”, it’s very difficult to prove that as false, since there is no “is not a racist” qualifier that can be used to demonstrate

But if I printed “[Insert_name] is not a real Doctor”, they could use their medical license to prove it as false. Conversely if I printed “[Insert_name] lied about their kid being a shooting victim” the person could provide a police report and death certificate

This is just a guess, but it basically gives politicians and the media free reign on character attacks, as long as they don’t attack a credential
Imagine losing your child in a school shooting. Then Alex Jones goes on his show and says it was all fake and your child didnt exist. Then his followers literally track you around the country forcing you to move locations to avoid harassment as well as protest your dead son or daughter’s existence during their funeral. While all that’s going on, your child’s grave has been found to be defaced and pissed on regularly. That’s what happened to some of the parents. The lawsuit is for damages.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:16 PM
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Imagine losing your child in a school shooting. Then Alex Jones goes on his show and says it was all fake and your child didnt exist. Then his followers literally track you around the country forcing you to move locations to avoid harassment. While all that’s going on, your child’s grave is defaced and pissed on regularly. That’s what happened to some of the parents. The lawsuit is for damages.
Alex Jones didn't piss on the graves. Not his fault.

Not worth 1 Billion dollars.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:19 PM
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Alex Jones didn't piss on the graves. Not his fault.

Not worth 1 Billion dollars.
Tell it to the jury I’m just explaining the situation.
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:18 PM
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Imagine losing your child in a school shooting. Then Alex Jones goes on his show and says it was all fake and your child didnt exist. Then his followers literally track you around the country forcing you to move locations to avoid harassment as well as protest your dead son or daughter’s existence during their funeral. While all that’s going on, your child’s grave has been found to be defaced and pissed on regularly. That’s what happened to some of the parents. The lawsuit is for damages.
Would this happen in a country without police and rich ppl protecting those ppl pissing on graves? And egging them on?
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:28 PM
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Imagine losing your child in a school shooting. Then Alex Jones goes on his show and says it was all fake and your child didnt exist. Then his followers literally track you around the country forcing you to move locations to avoid harassment as well as protest your dead son or daughter’s existence during their funeral. While all that’s going on, your child’s grave has been found to be defaced and pissed on regularly. That’s what happened to some of the parents. The lawsuit is for damages.
yes, but my original point is that it IS a defamation lawsuit

I looked it up to clarify: "The award is the largest the Texas conspiracy theorist has been ordered to pay as part of three defamation lawsuits against him for falsely claiming that the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, was a hoax"

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10...hook-shooting/

I didn't make any inference as to the emotional impact of the lies one way or the other, not trying to minimize that
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Old 10-13-2022, 07:40 PM
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yes, but my original point is that it IS a defamation lawsuit

I looked it up to clarify: "The award is the largest the Texas conspiracy theorist has been ordered to pay as part of three defamation lawsuits against him for falsely claiming that the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, was a hoax"

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10...hook-shooting/

I didn't make any inference as to the emotional impact of the lies one way or the other, not trying to minimize that
Ah gotcha. Skimmed your post and misunderstood.
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Old 10-13-2022, 08:35 PM
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Imagine losing your child in a school shooting. Then Alex Jones goes on his show and says it was all fake and your child didnt exist. Then his followers literally track you around the country forcing you to move locations to avoid harassment as well as protest your dead son or daughter’s existence during their funeral. While all that’s going on, your child’s grave has been found to be defaced and pissed on regularly. That’s what happened to some of the parents. The lawsuit is for damages.
What the fuck kind of country do you think you live in where that is illegal?

Every day the news says trump had hookers piss on him, without a shred of evidence.

Imagine your dad makes it to the oval office, and all you see on the news are lies about how there's a piss fountain with him.

Nobody cares.

This is a PURITAIN church "we dont like these black fingernails and satan music" witchunt.
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