How realistic is casual raiding?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't expect shit because I'm not wasting my time on that clownshow. Pretend it matters though if it makes you feel better about the sunk costs of obtaining imaginary things.

Oh don't get me wrong. It certainly is a waste of time. A lot of folks waste away on a couch watching garbage television, too. However, if we're going with that route of logic, logging into p99 at all falls under that same roof.

Just don't be salty. I'm a simple retired elf offering objective forum commentary.

The point is dkp is as fair as it can get. You certainly can get very good gear without sinking much time in, especially how easy it is to get on a raid log without doing much of anything. If the playmakers, trackers, time-sinkers, etc were not rewarded for their efforts the entire raid guild system as it stands on p99 would fall apart.

Are you going to be full BiS with 2% RA? Absolutely not. You can, however, get class-changing (or at least insane upgrade) items without the huge time sink. Alternatively, there is the option of bidding only droppable loot. From a platinum-per-hour standpoint, it can be extremely lucrative if your objective is to fund a mega twink instead of gearing out a 60.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh don't get me wrong. It certainly is a waste of time. A lot of folks waste away on a couch watching garbage television, too. However, if we're going with that route of logic, logging into p99 at all falls under that same roof.

Just don't be salty. I'm a simple retired elf offering objective forum commentary.

The point is dkp is as fair as it can get. You certainly can get very good gear without sinking much time in, especially how easy it is to get on a raid log without doing much of anything. If the playmakers, trackers, time-sinkers, etc were not rewarded for their efforts the entire raid guild system as it stands on p99 would fall apart.

Are you going to be full BiS with 2% RA? Absolutely not. You can, however, get class-changing (or at least insane upgrade) items without the huge time sink. Alternatively, there is the option of bidding only droppable loot. From a platinum-per-hour standpoint, it can be extremely lucrative if your objective is to fund a mega twink instead of gearing out a 60.

100% agree. DKP is the fairest method there is. You can still get good loot for cheap. Will it be Vulak loot? No, but it will be better than the droppable stuff you buy in EC.

The reason why /random guilds never get big is because the players who put in the most effort get screwed over by RNG, while casual/new players get lucky with great loot.

There just isn't any incentive for your best players to stick around. They end up joining a DKP guild, and then your guild has no more good players. At that point you become just another very casual guild.