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Old 08-25-2022, 02:12 PM
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Welders make a hell of a lot more than 38k
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Old 08-25-2022, 02:20 PM
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Welders make a hell of a lot more than 38k
Yea that seemed low. I’ve heard welders can make a lot, my dad wanted me to get into it as a side hustle
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Old 08-25-2022, 02:40 PM
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Yea that seemed low.
It's not, probably is representative of the actual national average. Recently came out for example UP is paying its thermite welders on order of ~$31/hr, this coming out because RR workers are on the verge of striking and the government's trying to prevent it so there's federal involvement between the respective parties. Factoring in layoff time, etc, some of those guys aren't making all that much. Consistent hours, proper pay on-time, overtime, etc, yeah they'll make a lot more than $40K. Same thing as the gender gap, what's present in practice can usually be explained away for reasons that do hold up upon scrutiny.
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:08 PM
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It's not, probably is representative of the actual national average. Recently came out for example UP is paying its thermite welders on order of ~$31/hr, this coming out because RR workers are on the verge of striking and the government's trying to prevent it so there's federal involvement between the respective parties. Factoring in layoff time, etc, some of those guys aren't making all that much. Consistent hours, proper pay on-time, overtime, etc, yeah they'll make a lot more than $40K. Same thing as the gender gap, what's present in practice can usually be explained away for reasons that do hold up upon scrutiny.
I’ve heard differences in gender pay can also be due to men being more likely to aggressively negotiate their salary whereas women tend to be more passive accepting the initial salary offered
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:18 PM
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I’ve heard differences in gender pay can also be due to men being more likely to aggressively negotiate their salary whereas women tend to be more passive accepting the initial salary offered
I've heard differences in gender pay are due to alignment of the planets and astrological signs, so I sacrificed a goat to placate my female coworkers at the Amazon warehouse
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:24 PM
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I've heard differences in gender pay are due to alignment of the planets and astrological signs, so I sacrificed a goat to placate my female coworkers at the Amazon warehouse
To what do you credit women's-soccer players being paid less than men's-soccer players?
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:33 PM
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To what do you credit women's-soccer players being paid less than men's-soccer players?
The thing I always credit when it comes to wage labor: capitalism [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(in that the world's largest oppressed pan-cultural minority has always been women and the oldest still active battlefield in the ongoing class war)

Flyover take section: less asses in seats at the games, less people paying for the streams. I wonder if the people who sell concessions and work security make the same amount in a men's game versus a women's. That's probably based on the venue or some other entity other than the league. Women's soccer has won more championship things than men's internationally for the USA teams, that's probably given them leverage.

I wonder if Putin would have dare to snag LeBron James over Brittney Griner, if he was the one who had to travel internationally to make ends meet
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:25 PM
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I've heard differences in gender pay are due to alignment of the planets and astrological signs, so I sacrificed a goat to placate my female coworkers at the Amazon warehouse
Took 2 seconds on Google

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“Over the past two decades, laboratory and survey evidence has suggested that men are significantly more likely to engage in salary negotiations than women”

https://gap.hks.harvard.edu/do-women...eld-experiment
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Old 08-25-2022, 03:39 PM
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Took 2 seconds on Google

Thanks for playing though! Come back anytime

“Over the past two decades, laboratory and survey evidence has suggested that men are significantly more likely to engage in salary negotiations than women”

https://gap.hks.harvard.edu/do-women...eld-experiment
Great! I'm just yanking your chain. I hate negotiating wages. I also hate traditional gender roles. Coincidence? Doubt it!

I really wish that study would differentiate between hourly wages and salaries. It mentions that when the job posting said negotiable men and women were largely equally likely to actually negotiate

Me, I won't even apply to a job if it doesn't list the pay in advance. The negotiation part comes when I get the interview, or get / think I should get a raise.
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